***Potty Training??

Pups naturally crawl out of the mother's nest to defecate when very, very young. They have an instinct to stay clean. Crate training just takes advantage of that.

I have to admit, the idea of taking a young animal and pushing its face into a pile - it bothers me. There are health issues, both with the person handling the dog, with the dog licking children, with the dog passing things to other dogs, of course, but just the idea of it bothers me. A pup is an innocent animal, and has an instinct to be clean. Even more so, I seriously doubt, knowing how dogs think, that it actually teaches them anything other than their human is very, very unpredictable and strange.

I think the idea of this sort of training arose a long long time ago, and the concept behind it is, that the dog defecated in the house to be mean. The idea is that the dog is doing it deliberately, knowingly.

Thinking about animals was like that, long, long ago. The general idea was that the dog knew very well what was wanted of it, but disobeyed for no other reason than to be disagreeable. At the time, a horse, for example that did not move forward when commanded, the trainer would take a cat, tie it to a long pole, whack the cat on the ground a few times, and then put it in between the horse's hind legs and get it to bite and claw. When a horse fell, it was not unusual to build a fire and burn it, to punish it for falling down. Training was so brutal that horses had to be blindfolded to be led to the training area.

Since that time, research, as well as experience, has shown that adversive training methods like these not only are unnecessary, but also that overall, they actually don't produce as good a result.
 
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I've heard of giving them ice instead of water, cause it occupies them, and hydrates them, but can't they choke on it?
 
Dogs get close to as much water from ice as they do from water. I don't understand how ice would help house breaking...because more water soaks into the rug than into the dog? Less pee volume?

I'm sure a dog occasionally gets a chunk of ice stuck in its throat. I've never felt it was a big problem. I usually give the dogs ice in summer to cool them off.
 
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honastly i dont know how it helps either.
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It was on that tv show 'its me or the dog' their dog had problems with peeing in the house, and they said if they leave bowls of ice down, instead of bowls of water, it'll take them longer to eat it, and wont have to pee as often...idk.
 
Gotta go back to pup house training 101, like you just brought her home.
In the crate when she cant be ATTACHED to your belt with a leash...
never let her roam the house free.(until shes fully trained).. If you cant keep her attached to you..then its back in the crate.
She'll catch on quickly...
Just make sure you go back over those pee spots again with a GOOD enzyme cleaner...
Good luck..
I just got a pup today.... dear god... its gonna suck. And its freezing cold winter time here too...
Just kill me now please..
 
It's me or the dog sounds a little bit...um...how can I say it....

The density of ice is only very slightly less than water - so a dog gets the same amount of water from a bowl of ice as a bowl of water. The suggestion makes no sense.

The bottom line is - the dog needs to go outdoors to pee. That really is the bottom line.

Once, my brother ignored the dog when it rang its bell to go outside.

So the dog walked over and made a poo in his shoe.
 
There are lots of ways to train a dog. My opinion they all have there place. If done right then its almost, if not completely done by the time they leave the breeder. But when it is not done young then it starts getting harder. Crate training becomes pretty important. An you cant let them out, out of sight. An they need regular bathroom breaks. I'm not a fan of giving more than petting are reward though.. Of course if I can get away with not doing the crate I will cause I think its cruel. Dog door or no dog door has a lot to do with how you train too.

As for sticking there nose in it, If it was my nose then yea it would be sick but I'm not a dog that eats poop anyway. Don't think it really does anything good or bad though.

Corporal punishment works but its really better for when a already trained dog chooses to poop by the door on rainy/snowy days than it is to training them in the first place, but it can work. Also the swat on the butt comes from you so they can sometimes get confused an can think there just not supposed to poop in front of you. They also can get that poop an run mindset. Both are a result of having them loose an out of site to early in the proses along with the reprimand coming only from you.. I like shock collars in place of the tail swat if you do choose the corporal punishment method. That way the punishment is not coming from you so there mind stays on the action an place of the action, not you. But you still have to have an eye on them always, an you also need to know how to use a collar the right way. Where its really annoying but not painful.

Now if you have a dog door you can put up a baby gate blocking them to only a few feet in the door. They will poop outside. Then slowly give them more room inside as long as they do good. I think it works pretty good on older dogs.
 
yes, the dog door is a good idea, but as I said earlier, shes not allowed outside off-leash for a reason.
 

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