problems at the end

[rebelcowboysnb]

Its not 0%. Its actually a bit higher than the humidity outside the egg because of the trapped moisture in the egg.

 

[pokey]

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Ventilation.

I know everybody jumped on this being humidity but pipping and then dying is textbook low oxygen.

I swear, if walmart made a $6 CO2 monitor we'd all quit talking about humidity - it's just because CO2 is so difficult/expensive to monitor that we think it doesn't matter. The big hatcheries monitor it much more closely than they do humidity, and they will sacrifice humidity at the end if they need to get more oxygen to the chicks. And every huge commercial incubator and hatcher runs at 50% humidity the whole time, so there's no reason to think that your 50% is too high. You can easily test it by weighing the eggs; that's the right way to monitor humidity anyway. If you're getting the right weight loss on the eggs than whatever humidity you are running is correct.

Remember, by the time they're hatching what you have in there is the equivalent of one chicken who is the weight of all the eggs. Picture, say, a full-grown bantam in your Genesis. And that chicken is working hard and panting with effort. Could he or she get enough air to survive with the holes you've got open?

Make sure your incubator is sterilized before you set the next hatch, just in case it's a bacterial infection that's making them weak. Keep track of the weight of a couple of test eggs to make sure they're losing it the way they should; change your humidity to keep them losing correctly and don't worry about whatever number it takes to get them there. There's no "right" or "wrong" humidity during the first 18 days, only whatever it takes to have them lose correctly. Then, on day 18, when you raise the humidity, do so with all the vents open. Do whatever you have to do to get the humidity up above 60 with the vents open - use sponges or cloths or socks or whatever. And see if you don't get a much better hatch.

So is there anyway to test this ?

 

[Baralak]

Well, On the CO2 topic... You have to take into consideration that Commerical Hatchries take CO2 into consideration because their incubators are jam packed stuffed to the brim with eggs. As those eggs hatch, the chicks are using up more air inside than the incubator can hold. The hatchery that I lived next to when I grew up, used Co2 levels to determine how far along the hatch cycle was. Once the Co2 levels were at a point, they would pull the trays and off to the next part of the hatchery they would go. Im glad I never got to see that part. That was the sexing/culling room. As a 10-14 year old, I would have been devistated.

our incubators don't have that problem, unless you are jamming 80 hen eggs in a 1588..

 

[pokey]

Certainly not jamming eggs in,but I am at a loss for the problem I am having.I am about ready to pluck myself!

 

[barefoottrims]

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I have to ask how do you know that?


Here is the easiest way to find out if there is moisture in the the airsac (and this will never hert the chick in the egg) candle it! if you keep your house at even around 75 degrees the process of taking the egg out of the incubator that is at say 100 degrees and you take it out of the incubator into aroom that is 75 the moister in the egg would condensate if you were to shake the egg the condensate would go to one side and you would see it

 

[barefoottrims]

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please please can you try something for me try one more batch and let me walk you threw each step until the hatch or if not atleast let me wrte up a step by step and see if it works

 

[pokey]

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please please can you try something for me try one more batch and let me walk you threw each step until the hatch or if not atleast let me wrte up a step by step and see if it works

We do fine until the actual hatch

 

[halo]

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I have to ask how do you know that?


Here is the easiest way to find out if there is moisture in the the airsac (and this will never hert the chick in the egg) candle it! if you keep your house at even around 75 degrees the process of taking the egg out of the incubator that is at say 100 degrees and you take it out of the incubator into aroom that is 75 the moister in the egg would condensate if you were to shake the egg the condensate would go to one side and you would see it

That doesnt make a bit of sense to me.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

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I have to ask how do you know that?


Here is the easiest way to find out if there is moisture in the the airsac (and this will never hert the chick in the egg) candle it! if you keep your house at even around 75 degrees the process of taking the egg out of the incubator that is at say 100 degrees and you take it out of the incubator into aroom that is 75 the moister in the egg would condensate if you were to shake the egg the condensate would go to one side and you would see it

I know because I have candled enough eggs to know that when the humidity in an incubator gets to high for to long the airsack starts filling with water. About 80% is where it starts happening. Condensation does not happen at 80% without cooling so for it to happen over time in the egg that has not cooled it must be higher in the airsack. How much higher I don't know but it is higher than the humidity in the incubator. Besides if the membrane could block humidity from getting in then it would block it from getting out too an we know the egg evaporates over time.

 

[barefoottrims]

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I have to ask how do you know that?


Here is the easiest way to find out if there is moisture in the the airsac (and this will never hert the chick in the egg) candle it! if you keep your house at even around 75 degrees the process of taking the egg out of the incubator that is at say 100 degrees and you take it out of the incubator into aroom that is 75 the moister in the egg would condensate if you were to shake the egg the condensate would go to one side and you would see it

I know because I have candled enough eggs to know that when the humidity in an incubator gets to high for to long the airsack starts filling with water. About 80% is where it starts happening. Condensation does not happen at 80% without cooling so for it to happen over time in the egg that has not cooled it must be higher in the airsack. How much higher I don't know but it is higher than the humidity in the incubator. Besides if the membrane could block humidity from getting in then it would block it from getting out too an we know the egg evaporates over time.

#1 here in nevada I have never had that problem. if there is no or very little humidity around the egg the egg will never fill up if there is alot of humidity the egg will suck in water that air sac is a basic pump the bigger it gets it is going to pull in something now I said the water molicule is bigger then the air molicule but you know what I can get a square peg into a round hole

ok well that would be the best reason not to have humity. I have traveled enough to know one thing about humidity if I get out of a hot shower in oklahoma and dry off and walk into a dry room I have to DRY off again and then again I know here in nevada if I get out of a hot shower and dry off and walk out of the bathroom I am going to stay dry