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[Penny Hen]

Was using stainless. But I have access to the scalpels, so I think they may do better.

They will. If you know someone who does flint knapping the flint blades are the sharpest of all. National Geographic had an article on flint blades 15 or 20 years ago. It had been argued in some circles that flint blades weren't up to the task of butchering out a mammoth. So when a zoo had one of their elephants die they donated the body to this group of archeologist who used new flint blades of the same manufacture as the ancient ones to butcher the elephant and looked at the cuts under the microscope and compared them to the cuts made by surgical steel. The flint did better, smoother cuts than the surgical steel. One of the men working on the project was so impressed that when he had to have surgery a year later that he had surgical blades made of flint and gave them to his surgeon to use in the operation.

 

[dutchbunny83]

Hi all!

I've been searching this site for like an hour and can't find any active threads on what I need, so thought I would check with you all since it's sort-of meat bird related....

We got 10 black broilers almost 2 weeks ago mail order & they've been doing fine. It's gotten really warm & there are a good amount of them, so about 5 days ago we put them in our "starter coop"-- (One of those pre-fab coops you buy with the little run on the bottom). I noticed one poop blood when I was changing their water. I do not have any experience with coccidiosis in the past, but this seems to be an issue with broiler birds?

My question-- the one who I saw poop blood do I cull or try to treat? They are in this separate coop from the rest of my chickens, but is it possible to spread it to them (already checked & currently all of their poop is fine). I realize the 10 that are all together would all be at risk if one had it, should I treat all of them? The go to treatment I've found on here seems to be Corrid in the water, does everyone agree with this? Will it effect meat? (I opted not to use medicated feed as I want the meat to be as natural as possible. I've only done freedom rangers and BB turkeys in the past, I never had this issue with them).

Thank you so much for any input!!!

 

[ronott1]

Hi all!

I've been searching this site for like an hour and can't find any active threads on what I need, so thought I would check with you all since it's sort-of meat bird related....

We got 10 black broilers almost 2 weeks ago mail order & they've been doing fine. It's gotten really warm & there are a good amount of them, so about 5 days ago we put them in our "starter coop"-- (One of those pre-fab coops you buy with the little run on the bottom). I noticed one poop blood when I was changing their water. I do not have any experience with coccidiosis in the past, but this seems to be an issue with broiler birds?

My question-- the one who I saw poop blood do I cull or try to treat? They are in this separate coop from the rest of my chickens, but is it possible to spread it to them (already checked & currently all of their poop is fine). I realize the 10 that are all together would all be at risk if one had it, should I treat all of them? The go to treatment I've found on here seems to be Corrid in the water, does everyone agree with this? Will it effect meat? (I opted not to use medicated feed as I want the meat to be as natural as possible. I've only done freedom rangers and BB turkeys in the past, I never had this issue with them).

Thank you so much for any input!!!

Treat it but it might be too late for that one. Give it very strong cord-- mix a double strong batch and dip its beak into the water.

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[dutchbunny83]

Treat it but it might be too late for that one. Give it very strong cord-- mix a double strong batch and dip its beak into the water.

Thank you very much!
It's storming insanely right now (like huge hail tornado warnings) as soon as it passes I'm ehading to TSC hopefully they have it there...

 

[ronott1]

Thank you very much!
It's storming insanely right now (like huge hail tornado warnings) as soon as it passes I'm ehading to TSC hopefully they have it there...

Stay Safe!

 

[lizanne]

Hi all!

I've been searching this site for like an hour and can't find any active threads on what I need, so thought I would check with you all since it's sort-of meat bird related....

We got 10 black broilers almost 2 weeks ago mail order & they've been doing fine. It's gotten really warm & there are a good amount of them, so about 5 days ago we put them in our "starter coop"-- (One of those pre-fab coops you buy with the little run on the bottom). I noticed one poop blood when I was changing their water. I do not have any experience with coccidiosis in the past, but this seems to be an issue with broiler birds?

My question-- the one who I saw poop blood do I cull or try to treat? They are in this separate coop from the rest of my chickens, but is it possible to spread it to them (already checked & currently all of their poop is fine). I realize the 10 that are all together would all be at risk if one had it, should I treat all of them? The go to treatment I've found on here seems to be Corrid in the water, does everyone agree with this? Will it effect meat? (I opted not to use medicated feed as I want the meat to be as natural as possible. I've only done freedom rangers and BB turkeys in the past, I never had this issue with them).

Thank you so much for any input!!!

Is it blood (like bright red), or is it just "pink"? I've noticed that my Cornish X tend to shed more intestinal lining that average. Here is a link to the "chicken poop page" it shows a wide range of normal poop, and what isn't normal. http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=17568.0

 

[Beekissed]

Hi all!

I've been searching this site for like an hour and can't find any active threads on what I need, so thought I would check with you all since it's sort-of meat bird related....

We got 10 black broilers almost 2 weeks ago mail order & they've been doing fine. It's gotten really warm & there are a good amount of them, so about 5 days ago we put them in our "starter coop"-- (One of those pre-fab coops you buy with the little run on the bottom). I noticed one poop blood when I was changing their water. I do not have any experience with coccidiosis in the past, but this seems to be an issue with broiler birds?

My question-- the one who I saw poop blood do I cull or try to treat? They are in this separate coop from the rest of my chickens, but is it possible to spread it to them (already checked & currently all of their poop is fine). I realize the 10 that are all together would all be at risk if one had it, should I treat all of them? The go to treatment I've found on here seems to be Corrid in the water, does everyone agree with this? Will it effect meat? (I opted not to use medicated feed as I want the meat to be as natural as possible. I've only done freedom rangers and BB turkeys in the past, I never had this issue with them).

Thank you so much for any input!!!

I cull. Just had this happen for the very first time in one of my flocks in 38 yrs...not the first time I saw a broiler with a bloody stool, but the first time it didn't stop, with no further problems. One of my 4 wk old chicks was pooping blood a little 2 wks ago but I always wait to see if it's just shedding or something more serious. The other day I saw a meaty just standing around, not foraging. I checked and it had bloody stool clinging to the feathers on its butt~I'm assuming it's the same chick, as I only had 7 birds so it can't really get lost in the crowd. This is a bird that is not going to overcome an overload of coccidia and it was culled. The rest of the birds have shown no signs and are very healthy, so no meds will be given.

I'd put a zip tie loosely on that bird's leg and watch what happens.

 

[dutchbunny83]

Okay thank you.
One for sure I know was doing it, so he will be culled in the morning.
The rest I guess just wait & see?
I tried to get Corrid, but TSC was out. The manager thought they got it from free ranging or pooping in their water, probably a combination of the 2.
Hopefully I don't lose anymore!
I had a few other few week old chicks that weren't broilers, but put them together for warmth. So far no signs of illness with them, but they are in a separate large rabbit cage to be monitored.
The guy had be buy some Ocytetracycline general antibiotic and I put some of that in the water with some ACV (realize more preventative than treatment, but figured it can't hurt).
Hopefully the rest are okay, first time dealing with this.

Thanks for the help!!!

Edit: Oh and it was blood, blood. Like bright red, all liquid, saw him do it.

 

[Beekissed]

Okay thank you.
One for sure I know was doing it, so he will be culled in the morning.
The rest I guess just wait & see?
I tried to get Corrid, but TSC was out. The manager thought they got it from free ranging or pooping in their water, probably a combination of the 2.
Hopefully I don't lose anymore!
I had a few other few week old chicks that weren't broilers, but put them together for warmth. So far no signs of illness with them, but they are in a separate large rabbit cage to be monitored.
The guy had be buy some Ocytetracycline general antibiotic and I put some of that in the water with some ACV (realize more preventative than treatment, but figured it can't hurt).
Hopefully the rest are okay, first time dealing with this.

Thanks for the help!!!

Edit: Oh and it was blood, blood. Like bright red, all liquid, saw him do it.

The TSC manager doesn't have a clue about chickens. Chickens get coccidia while in a penned situation the same as free ranging, that has no bearing on it at all. I've been free ranging for almost 4 decades and this is the first time I've seen it in one of my flocks, whereas you can read on this forum over and over penned chicks and chickens having coccidiosis.

Nor does it happen from pooping in the water, though that's not a great thing. It happens if the bird has a weak immune system and is exposed to soils or environments that have coccidia present...which is anywhere folks have chickens or any other livestock. Some birds can be exposed to the very same things~as in the case of my birds~and never once get an overload of coccidia.

My first time dealing with it also and my best and quickest solution is cull. Right now you just have a bird problem. If you start getting more and more, then you have a flock problem and then treatment options may change for you.

 

[dutchbunny83]

Okay thank you!