Well, we're doing our turkeys this sunday, and although we have the drill down for the meat birds, this is our first time with the turkeys. I have a couple questions I was hoping someone with more experience could answer so we can have a good experience with this. First, how big does my scalder actually need to be? I have a 15 gallon pot but that's honestly looking a bit small.... (they're not the hugest turkeys in the world though. dressed weight I'd expect 17-25lbs) and what kind of bag do you suggest for wrapping the birds? I don't have a good source for the shrink bags, and with only five birds was looking for something sort of simpler and cheaper this year. lastly a question about the actual killing. We have done all our butchering to date with a killing cone, but that hardly seems feasible with such a big bird. Seems like getting them into the darned thing would be hard on us and hard on the bird. Does anyone have another method they've had good luck with? We'd prefer to frighten the birds as little as possible, and avoid being beaten to deat by very large wings!