Prolapse Fix itself???

[Lov'emSouthernEggs]

Can a prolapsed vent fix itself? Is this something that will kill my hen? What causes it? Is it as simple as pushing it back in?

I have loved this site and really appreciate all the help. I'm heading out one more time to check everyone out. Can't do too much tonight.

Thank you!

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

put prparation H on it and push it back in
also keep her where it is dark os she doesn't eat a lot and lay eggs

 

[Lov'emSouthernEggs]

I did some up close and personal "rear end" checking and my RIR hen seems to have the prolapse. And I got lucky, she was pooping when I went out there...(Never thought I'd say that)

My White Leghorn hen doesn't seem to have the buldge, it does seem to be a bit swollen and there is a lot of drainage. It was yellow yolk egg looking. Now it is red and drips pretty consistantly.

Husband checked them this morning and everyone looks good. Still alive and color is good.

Suggestions on the second hen?

Very much appreciated!

 

[Wynette]

Hey there - as you know, I've been following your situation. I just checked the pictures, and oh goodness....THAT does NOT look good at all. I'm somewhat surprised they are continuing to lay to be honest; they look like they are surely in pain.

The link below is where dlhunicorn, one of BYC most respected members that we go to for medical help, keeps her medical information. You might find something helpful there.

http://dlhunicorn.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=diseasecasestudies

In the meantime, the leghorns to me look as if they are getting pecked. They really need to be separated - not only from the rest of your flock, but from each other, so you can rule that out. Do you have a way that you can do this? I've mentioned it before and you've not responded in that regard. Even if you can make up some temporary way to separate them, it would be VERY helpful. They also need to be bathed and cleaned up. You can do this by running a sink or large pail full with WARM water. I would add epsom salts. You will need to let them soak for at least 10-15 minutes to loosed the gunk, then carefully try to get as much of the dried on stuff off their bums and feathers. It may take more than one treatment. I really think you need to first rule out that they are getting pecked on first. Also, when you separate them, you can watch their droppings to see if they are abnormal, and collect a fresh sample to take in for a faecal float. Any vet can do this, and it's not expensive. The longer they stay dirty as they are, the more opportunity for infection to set in.

I don't mean to sound judgmental, and I hope you don't take offense by this comment, but if you're unwilling or unable to take these steps to try and care for them, it might be the most humane thing to dispatch them. I know not everyone is equipped or able to handle these types of things, and I for one would rather see a sick chicken humanley put down rather than continue to suffer. Also, this will hopefully stop the problem from spreading.

I DO, of course, wish you the VERY best of luck, and I wish I knew what was ailing your girls! Cleaning them up first and getting a faecal done on one of the leghorns will give you a good start to figuring out the problem. And, do check dlhunicorn's pages - there's TONS and TONS of information there. Please keep us posted!! Here's hoping you can get this figured out for your poor girls!

 

[Lov'emSouthernEggs]

No offense taken. I value your help and advise. I have appreciated how straight forward you have been.

I have pulled three hens from the flock. I have left the RIR because she isn't bleeding or having problems with the flock. It is a small flock, only 8 total in a large run.

The WLHs are in pens in the garage. I only have two so I put one by itself and the two that have been perched together for the last two days are in one. I have taken them of off layer food and put them on finisher. They are drinking and quiet. If the two together don't get along DH will have to build another small pen.

I have collected eggs and none are bloody today and so far they have been in the boxes. Crazy day yesterday.

I won't be able to bathe them until my husband is home this evening. Too much to try and do with two small children. One is preening herself. I will watch them all day.

I did get a response about my RIR. She has reason to believe that it is a yeast infection and gave me a link to do more research. She offered Nystantin as a treatment...which I am familiar with because it's used with infants and breastfeeding mothers. I really think that with her that's what it is.

They may all have a yeast infection and the others might have started picking. Don't really know for sure yet.

Still researching. Thank you again!

 

[Wynette]

Well, it sounds like you have the situation in hand!! It would be great if, once you can get them cleaned up, the felt a bit better. I'm sure they will. Leghorns are very hardy birds! Bathing them does take time, and you do have to sort of hold them down so their bums are in the water constantly. Glad to year you're doing research! You're a good chicken momma! Oh, you can also trim the feathers around their vents if need be; and, if they have runny poop, this might be a good idea to help them not get matted after you clean them up. THey appear to be in good weight - are they eating and drinking in their new spots?

 

[Lov'emSouthernEggs]

Thank you for your compliment. I really needed to hear that. I feel like I'm running around "like a chicken with my head cut off" LOL

I'm trying to treat something and I don't know what it is. I really think that it is a yeast. I don't think that it is the yeast that someone else suggested after reading the discription. She suggested it was candida (yeast) infection.

The rest of the flock looks good. Three hens in garage are eating, drinking, and poop looks normal for all three. Comb is still very droppy, eyes and nostrils clear.

Still hunting for answers. Thank you so much for your support.

 

[Lov'emSouthernEggs]

10:00am Thursday morning...Lost one of my hens. It was one that I brought up from the flock.

I feel so helpless.

 

[Wynette]

Oh, I'm SO sorry to hear this! Can you contact your local state extension and take the girl in for a necropsy? Most of them are very inexpensive to do so, and then you know for SURE what you have going on.

In the meantime, were you able to get them cleaned up? Are the ohter 2 still eating and drinking well? Make sure you actually SEE them eat and drink. It's imperative that they stay hydrated and have nutrition going in to be able to fight whatever this is.

I'm SO very sorry...but hang in there! Hopefully we can figure out what's going on!!!

 

[Lov'emSouthernEggs]

Goodmorning.

I have seen them eat and drink. I have been watching throughout the day. I have not washed them. I am unsure of what they have and I am currently breastfeeding my 5 month old son. I can't risk getting/spreading anything. A few people belive that it is some kind of yeast. They have been preening themselves and one seems to be improving. Tail and head are up. Color is still good and poop is normal. Their rears have dried and they are cleaning themselves. I know that you have mentioned them suffering but their spirits are good. They are walking and pecking and interacting.

DH isn't the bathing type and is considering culling this evening when he gets home. No signs of any of the others having this. The ones in the garage haven't layed.

I have sent a message to the person you had suggested and am waiting to hear back. I feel like I'm trying to treat a bunch of possiblities and I'm not understanding how that in itself won't hurt them. Haven't found a vet in the area. Trying to do as much the best I can.