Prolapsed vent and worms -- advice please

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by noelalala, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. noelalala

    noelalala Out Of The Brooder

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    One of our 3.5 year old girls has a prolapsed vent, cloaca -- about 1 inch.
    We cleaned her up, applied some honey and Prep H, tucked it back in and discovered worms.
    She voided a little while I was tucking.
    She's now in a crate in the garrage away from the other ladies.
    We'll check her in the morning and plan to repeat cleaning and tucking -- and put a blanket over the crate to discourage laying.

    Any advice???
    What about the worms? I'm new to worms. We have 11 other chickens and 2 guineas.

    This is our first chicken healthcare issue.
    My daughter is VERY attached to our chickens.

    Thanks,
    Noel
     
  2. Gargoyle

    Gargoyle Overrun With Chickens

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    Here's basic worming advice I've clipped and saved from other posts here on BYC:
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    1. Wazine17 - two ounces in two gallons of water for one day - dump eggs for two weeks
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    ...Ten days later:
    2. Valbazen -one half cc/ml for standard size chickens, one quarter cc/ml for smaller chickens including silkies. You can use a syringe to squirt it down their throats individually or you can inject it into a small piece of bread and give each chicken a piece of bread....they gobble it up. - dump the eggs for two weeks
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    3. ...after a couple of days of using both wormers....give your chickens plain yogurt or buttermilk(probiotics), canned beef cat food (extra protein), all mixed in their feed and give it to them to build up their immune systems, do this about 3 days in a row.

    The next time you worm,say in about 6 months or whenever you see fit...you can use the valbazen first, no need to use the wazine unless you want to.

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    Wazine is a mild wormer that only paralyzes roundworms. Since chickens have many different kinds of worms, especially if they free range, you don't want to use ivermectin or safeguard first because they kill all those different type of worms (except tapeworms.) The overload of dead worms in the chickens system will poison and kill the chicken. Using wazine first gets rid of one type, roundworm, reducing the wormload in the chicken. Then in 10-14 days use ivermectin or safeguard to kill roundworm larva that have grown from eggs in the chickens system since the wazine usage. The ivermectin and safeguard will not only kill the roundworm larva, they also kill gapeworm and several other types of worms. You can use ivermectin pour on, it not only kills all those worms, but it also kills lice and mites on chickens. Remember, ivermectin and safeguard are off label and used for cattle, horses, goats.
     
  3. weaversfarm

    weaversfarm Out Of The Brooder

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    Gargoyle, can you use Ivermectin injectable and if you can, how do you give it and how do you dose it? I will have close to 80 chickens and a good wormer is something I was going to research later as these chicks are just 5 weeks old. I am in the North, so we don't have the worm issues people in the southern states have but they will be free range chickens and will need to be wormed at some point. I have the Wazine, but not the Ivermectin Pour On.
     
  4. noelalala

    noelalala Out Of The Brooder

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    Thank you! Regarding egg dumping, what is the purpose of this? is there harm in eating these eggs? I'm wondering if I should purge the eggs I have in my fridge already.
    Not sure which chickens they came from or if the other chickens have worms, but I guess I can assume they all have worms.
    Hmmmm.....
     
  5. Gargoyle

    Gargoyle Overrun With Chickens

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    noelalala, egg dumping is because the valbazen/wazine/whatever will be in the eggs, and isn't supposed to be good for human consumption.

    weaversfarm, my info came from the posts of experienced BYC'es whom I respect, so I'm not a primary source for this info.
    An excellent place to get any info is the Road Less Traveled thread here on BYC.
     
  6. casportpony

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  7. noelalala

    noelalala Out Of The Brooder

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    Yes, thank you. I did eventually figure that out.

    I've also heard that Diatomatceous Earth can be used as a wormer -- and you can continue eating the eggs.
     
  8. casportpony

    casportpony Team Tube Feeding Captain & Poop Inspector General Premium Member

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    I'd do some more research on that if I were you.
     
  9. Gargoyle

    Gargoyle Overrun With Chickens

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    DE is good stuff, and I use it; but people seem to think it's a be-all and end-all miracle substance. Take some of the claims about it with a grain of salt.
     
  10. noelalala

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    Is it safe to eat eggs from a chicken with round worms? I think they are round worms.
    I know my chicken with prolapse has worms -- not sure about the rest -- probably though, right??
    My daughter read in Storey's Guide To Raising Chickens that the eggs should not be eaten.
    If this is true, we'll have to throw out a LOT of eggs -- b/c we don't know which eggs are which prior to yesterday, and the girls have been laying like crazy!

    I found a vet that sees chickens in my area. I'm gonna take her tomorrow b/c it's not looking any better, and it's getting smelly.

    FYI -- Our local feed store recommended the DE -- food grade of course. Mine has some bentonite clay in it too which should be good I would think.

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