Pullet(s) or cockerel(s)

[mts526]

I have two 8-week-old chicks which I received sexed as females, but I am suspecting at least one cockerel. White plymouth rock and New Hampshire Red. I've attached two pictures of the white rock and 1 of the New Hampshire Red.
Can these be sexed with certainty yet? Thanks!

https://imgur.com/2hlV2kW

https://imgur.com/18Vd7ea

https://imgur.com/UfclJPQ

 

[Fluffy Lambs]

I have two 8-week-old chicks which I received sexed as females, but I am suspecting at least one cockerel. White plymouth rock and New Hampshire Red. I've attached two pictures of the white rock and 1 of the New Hampshire Red.
Can these be sexed with certainty yet? Thanks!

https://imgur.com/2hlV2kW

https://imgur.com/18Vd7ea

https://imgur.com/UfclJPQ

Both cockerels

 

[CrazyChicken360]

x2 I think both are cockerels.

 

[Painted Calls]

Both are cockerels. Where did you get them?

Welcome to BYC!

 

[mts526]

Both are cockerels. Where did you get them?

Welcome to BYC!

Thanks, they are from Cackle Hatchery.

 

[mts526]

Thanks all for the replies. The hatchery has agreed that the New Hampshire Red is a cockerel, and his first attempt at crowing this morning really drove that home...

But they are still saying that the White Plymouth Rock is a female, based on feathers and body shape, and that "the combs and waddles aren't always indicative of sex."

I'm wondering what made you certain that the white rock was a male?

Thanks again.

 

[Painted Calls]

Thanks all for the replies. The hatchery has agreed that the New Hampshire Red is a cockerel, and his first attempt at crowing this morning really drove that home...

But they are still saying that the White Plymouth Rock is a female, based on feathers and body shape, and that "the combs and waddles aren't always indicative of sex."

I'm wondering what made you certain that the white rock was a male?

Thanks again.

Comb and wattles. A pullet that age shouldn't be half as developed as he is. Before 14 weeks, comb and wattles are the absolute main way to sex a chicken. The feathers they are looking for haven't come in yet. Due to the fact that they don't usually come in until 12 weeks. Hatcheries are 100% clueless on sexing birds outside of vent sexing. He is a male. 100% positive. Unfortunately because hatcheries know absolute nothing about sexing, they will usually make you wait until the birds are old enough for saddles to appear.