Puppies with Coccidiosis ???

[Crazy4Chicks]

our little boxer puppies are now 6 weeks and growing FAST !!

they had thier first shot on Friday and did very well -- we have not wormed them yet.

They have not been outside to play in the grass and have not been around any other dogs other than thier on mom and once to see thier daddy and our other dog.

they have been on the same food as when they started eating solids and momma dog still nurse's them ( not much anymore but at least 1-2 times a day )

I noticed yesterday thier poop was getting alittle runny and had a reddish color to it - but thought nothing of it since the food they eat has some red chewy pieces

but today some of the pups have runny poop that looks like it has slime in it and it smells nasty !
not a parvo smell- just a gross poopy smell

I called vet and she said it is common sometimes for puppies to get Coccidiosis after they get thier shots

I can not afford another trip to vet right now shots for these guys cost us a fortune -- is there something I can do at home to treat them ?

I have a hand held carpet cleaner I have filled with water - cleaning solution and a little bleach and everytime they poop we get it picked up tossed and I clean the area with the bleach/solution mixture

they are still playful and eating and drinking and acting normal

 

[Riocotesei]

I could be hookworms causing the red/bloody poop.
Get some de-wormer that kills roundworms and hookworms.
But if it is cocci then i don't know what you should do. good luck.

 

[Crazy4Chicks]

hook worms - ewww

how would they get the worms if they never been in contact with poop from others dogs ?

I will start giving them dewormer tonight - and hope that helps

thank you for the reply at least I have a starting point now and can start treating them for something and see if it helps

 

[texasgirl]

Coccidia is treated with Albon, which I believe is by rx only but maybe your vet will just let you take a fecal sample for testing and they can tell you if it is coccidia or worms and can just rx you the meds without an office visit since you were just in for their shots. I know that wouldn't be a problem at the clinic I work at.

 

[grandmachicken]

I'm a vet and I agree with the above. If the pups have been seen before, I would just ask for a fecal sample to rule out the coccidiosis, then prescribe the appropriate med.

Puppies get hookworms and roundworms from their moms, through the placenta and the milk, even if the adult doesn't show signs. In the mom, her immune system kills off the larvae and she doesn't develop adults which lay eggs, so a fecal exam will be negative for the eggs. But the larvae can migrate through the placental tissue and establish themselves in the gut of the pups. Routine deworming every 3 weeks starting at 2 weeks of age until about 16 weeks of age should clear all eggs and larvae. Be careful about deworming with OTC products. Often, the drug is correct, but the dosing and strength are not, and you are wasting your money.

Pups must come in contact with some outside source of coccidia (not "cocci" as I've seen written here - those are bacteria), which may be anywhere, especially in moist and unsanitary conditions. I don't believe the species of coccidia that affect canines are the same as the ones that affect poultry, but the treatment is the same - Albon. Albon is the sulfamethoxine that is mixed in any medicated chick feed, but you need the correct dosage based on weight.

There are other viruses and parasites that can cause watery, mucusy, or bloody stools in pups. This definitely warrants a fecal check by a vet.

 

[Riocotesei]

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I don't know a whole lot about hookworms, but if they are evil like other worms like for example tape worms, puppies can get tape worms from eating certain bugs like june bugs.
since your pups are 6 weeks old now, it's good to go ahead and de-worm them anyways. I hope that it is a simple thing like that.
Hope your babies get better!

ETA: I posted slow so the above answer is more accurate.

 

[mekasmom]

Coccidia occurs at times of stress like when puppies start to wean. You can treat it with Albon (sulfadimethoxine) which is readily available at any farm supply store under the name dimethox. I would get the generic rather than the brandname Albon. It is less than half the price in generic form. See the eleven dollar powder Dimethox in this page.

http://www.jefferslivestock.com/ssc...HT5VG0PAVMSMBQ26XGD&keywords=albon&cmkw=albon


At six weeks, I would also get some DA2PP vaccines and worm the babies with pyrantal pamoate. PPM is very inexpensive, and will kill both hook and round worms.

 

[Crazy4Chicks]

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thank you for the great info on both coccidia and hookworm

I never knew puppies can have a dewormer at 2 weeks ! I have always wanted till they were 6 weeks to start -

We are taking a sample in today and hopefully know what we are dealing with

I am still cleaning any spots with bleach cleaning solution it might be over kill and not needed but I am not taking any chances LOL ( plus I like the smell of bleach LOL )

over all the puppies look great - eating us out of house and home - and are into EVERYTHING !!

I will take a look around TSC to see if they have the meds there - might be worth it too keep some on hand from now on.

 

[lorieMN]

could also be giardia,this is a protozoa (sp) and it may be in your water..it also will show itself when the pup is stressed..should run a stool sample to the vet tho,so you know what to treat for,panacur will treat giardia,and worm them at the same time..actually pups should be starting worming at 2 weeks..

 

[freerangefreaks]

A fecel is always your best bet. We deworm puppies starting at two weeks and then every two weeks until they are 12 weeks. We use pyrantel pamoate, brand name Strongid T, oral suspension.
Pyrantel 50mg/ml administer .2ml per 2.2lb. We also deworm momma dog when pups are two weeks then 10days later. And again when pups are taken away at 8 weeks and 10 days later.

good luck.