Pure Ameraucanas with color faults

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hi Joyce! I appreciate that more than you know.
I don't think they have the 'lavender gene'--- but I've hatched some lovely 'pastel-colored' girls in the past generations.
If I hadn't been so keen on 'clean blues and blacks', no telling what pretties I would have found.

Lisa

 

[danielbrown]

Genes can do funny things.
I hatched 12 of Dipsy B/B/S AM and 1 is pure white.

 

[pips&peeps]

They are ameraucanas, but just advertise them as your "culls".

Mahonri's bird is from my flock, and I am at a loss for why he has the silver/gold leakage. (can't precisely tell which it is)

I haven't had any roos or hens with leakage for 3+ years. I am really heavy handed when it comes to color.

Maybe it is silver. I have been told that since my black birds have slate legs instead of black, that they carry the birchen gene. Maybe it finally showed itself.

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hi Daniel! She still looks white as snow (I was holding out that she would show splashing eventually).
She is an anomaly for sure. Maybe someone genetically inclined can offer an explanation.

It's funny, I set a weeks worth of eggs from the Am pens and got nothing but blacks, blues, and splashes.
I was thinking from 6 doz Am eggs I'd get an idea of the % that were hatching 'off-color' --- but not an 'off-colored' chick in the bunch. I didn't get a single one.

It would be ignorant of me to say they don't hatch 'off-color', because I've seen them hatch other places.

Lisa

 

[Mahonri]

pips&peeps :

They are ameraucanas, but just advertise them as your "culls".

Mahonri's bird is from my flock, and I am at a loss for why he has the silver/gold leakage. (can't precisely tell which it is)

I haven't had any roos or hens with leakage for 3+ years. I am really heavy handed when it comes to color.

Maybe it is silver. I have been told that since my black birds have slate legs instead of black, that they carry the birchen gene. Maybe it finally showed itself.

But he is still BEAUTIFUL... and a wonderful protector.​

 

[Mahonri]

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I didn't leave the feedback, but I LOVE your birds.

My birds are growing...

Out of the 8 that hatched.

I got the one that was buff colored as a chick... he has turned whitish with a bluish head... cool looking.... son wants to keep him!

I got 3 black... all three appear to be roos!
One is just PURE black. One is black laced and the other had a 'white' mask under his chin that has almost disappeared.

I got 1 blue... a BEAUTIFUL ROO, I can seriously see no faults but I suppose it's still early.

I got 3 splash and it looks like they are all pullets but one of them has green legs.... and is still beautiful.
Also one of the splash almost looks rumpless? hardly any tail feathers at all, and they haven't been picked either... She is just a busy little body and LOVES to free range when I let them out for the hour before sunset.

I'll probably keep the Blue roo and two of the splash and rehome or sell the rest.

And since Jean is closest, next year I'll probably splurge and get some chicks from her!

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

If both parents are carrying a single copy of recessive white you will have no indication of its presence in those birds (including their down when they were chicks). However 25% of their offspring will receive a copy from each and be white.

Let's say you have one rooster carrying recessive white and 5 hens. In a week you will have 35 eggs. Let's assume all are fertile and hatch. If only one hen carries recessive white, only one or two of her eggs will be white chicks. Throw in infertility and eggs that for whatever reason don't develop properly, and that number could drop. If you have more hens to the rooster, the percentage drops: 5 hens gives 1 or 2 white chicks from 35 eggs, 10 hens gives 1 or 2 white chicks from 70 eggs. If you have more than one rooster, but only one carries recessive white, and if you periodically move the hens from one to the other, you further reduce the total number of white chicks since when she is with the rooster who does not carry recessive white none of her chicks will be white.

 

[onthespot]

Hi all, and thanks for the replies. Here is tbe roo, and the pullet he came with that the seller thought was another roo. She was a freebie. (score!) Anyhow, you can see the color problems he has. Is the cream on his hackles a different fault than the red on his shoulders?

He is a nice bird. I have room for him in the EE pen, where he doesn't have to have perfect color anyhow because the hens there are all mixes. The pullet has not started laying yet. I am hoping to find out what color genes she carries as he is likely to have similar I would think. He would be of use in the EE pen, mainly because I would know which chicks would be his at a glance, because they would all be Blue/Splash... He is pretty easy going and if you just don't look at the bad colors, he is a pretty handsome boy. He is big and well behaved.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I think that is probably autosomal red coming through--perhaps one of those better qualified at genetics will speak up and verify or correct this

 

[Tailfeathers]

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Excellent post & points, Sonoran. This is exactly why I keep my breeding pens limited to specific birds and then mark each egg collected from the pens as I take them out with the corresponding pen number. I have a friend from church make me a sheetmetal divider that fits into my hatching tray so that I can keep my chicks separated until I take them out. I remove each chick from it's place, check the number of the egg shell, and immediately toe punch them. If for some reason I can't tell the egg # (for instance the top part of the shell with the # happens to get crushed and fall thru the cracks or something), I do not mark that chick and it is sold as "Unknown".

Doing this allows me the ability to go back and look at exactly what the ancestry was for an undesirable trait that has surfaced.

God Bless,