Here is the quail breeder pens i came up with. all scrap excepting the wire (my gosh that is expensive stuff!). i saw some large bottle waterers. will those work? seems a lot like the nipple waterers. i'm also thinking to lift the food to neck level. could i stick a square 2"x4" under the food bowls (made for quail. closed top with holes for their heads to stick in). i get two "Yes's," then i'm ready to rock-n-roll.