Quechua Thread

[alibra]

Tufted X tufted can cause up to 50% deaths in the egg

How far along do they die?

 

[enola]

Usually they make it to lock down. The problem is caused by one or both of the tufts growing the wrong direction and piercing the brain. I am pretty sure I got that info on this site.

 

[Grannychick55]

So far I don't know of anyone who has brought any in. They could be recreated by breeding an Auracana with tufts to a Sweet Potato Quecha hens and selecting for the tufts with beards and tails. Remember that breeding tuft to tuft will cause a quarter of the the chicks to die in the shell

What percentage will die in the shell and is that a given that will happen ? I have a pair of Sweet Potato Quecha and might be interested in trying that I also have 2 Auracana roos I could use. What if the roo only has 1 tuft or is clean faced but carries the gene could you still use them ?

 

[poularde]

Both parents need to have tufts to have the lethal gene. The chick needs to have two copies of the tuft gene.

 

[Penny Hen]

What percentage will die in the shell and is that a given that will happen ? I have a pair of Sweet Potato Quecha and might be interested in trying that I also have 2 Auracana roos I could use. What if the roo only has 1 tuft or is clean faced but carries the gene could you still use them ?

This is from Feathersite:
Tufts are unique to Araucanas, and each is composed of a group of feathers that grow from a protruding flap of skin located near the ear, called a peduncle. The mutation that causes this abnormal flap is an autosomal (not sex-linked) dominant gene represented by the symbol Et (extended tuft). This gene is completely different from the one responsible for producing the muffs and beards seen in other breeds, such as the Ameraucana. The tufts gene is lethal when present on both chromosomes (homozygous), and the chicks die in-shell and don't hatch. This means that a flock will always be a mixture of tufted and clean-faced birds. There is wide variability in the size and shape of tufts. Unfortunately, many birds may have uneven, small, or only one-sided tufts. But a bird with large showy tufts makes an unforgettable impression!
It is often asked whether it is better to mate tufted to tufted or tufted to clean-faced birds. According to classic genetics, crossing tufted with clean-faced will give you 50% tufted and 50% clean-faced, with none dead in-shell. This cross will give you the greatest number of live chicks. If your goal is to produce the largest percentage of tufted birds and minimize the percentage of undesired clean-faced chicks, then tufted to tufted matings are best. In this case, 50% will still be tufted, 25% will be clean-faced, and 25% will die in-shell because they have two copies of the tufts gene. So the percentage of birds that hatch will be 75% tufted and 25% clean-faced. In both cases, you will get the same number of tufted chicks.

 

[fuzzybutt love]

idk if this is the article for working with the roos, but it is a good one
http://www.backyardpoultrymag.com/1-2/harvey_ussery/


I keep a list of helpful links for disease, med dosing, hatching in my siggy link. My ee roo was a very nice bird and would leap onto my arm if i called him; all this changed when a neighbor's 2 year old was let to wander early in the morning without supervision. I found him charging the fence and bouncing off it, squealing..........you know what that looked like to my poor roo. After that he developed a mistrust of people; i was the only one who could enter that pen. Still fought with me off and on, but we were always best friends. It never went away, but this was a tremendous help and may have been able to reverse it completely if i'd have found the article earlier on.

I have found in my modest breeding efforts that personality is definitely dominant. I can tame any bird, but the offspring of the in-your-face friendly ones are from birth whether you or a broody raise them. I think if you did have to use an ameruacana for breeding, personality must be taken into account.

I definitely respect the work you all have done toward preserving this special bird

 

[MA Mama]

These are posted on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271429618477?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 

[poularde]

These are posted on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271429618477?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Love that people are interested! Great job! Looks like you have a great start.

 

[ChickenCanoe]

I'd love to have some. Not sure I can compete this month.

 

[Grannychick55]

These are posted on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271429618477?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

Those look like your pics MAMAMa are they yours ? Why would people pay that much when you can get them on here for so much less