Question about a contract

[chickened]

The problem is in this case the breeder is keeping BOTH the money and the dog.  That is just wrong. Also unethical, and probably illegal. Plus to say they heve proof that the buyer deliberately tried to kill the puppy is just nonsense.

Ask yourself this question , someone comes to your home buys a dog takes it home and decides for whatever reason they don't want the dog. As a breeder you are obligated to take it back as it is not a shirt that doesn't fit but a puppy Those people have wasted your time and money We require that the new owner take the puppy to their vet within 72 hrs for a well puppy check which begins a relationship between a new owner and their puppy. If they don't there is no guarantees. My guess is there is more to the story. I have seen young women come buy a puppy and take it home only to find out that their male dude boyfriend tells them it has to go. I don't know why this happens but it is not uncommon and what happens is people will lie and say something is wrong sigh it. People are liars. My guess is this person treated the puppy with an online diagnosis and made it worse which the experienced breeder recognized. As a breeder of 22 years we have heard and seen it all.

 

[cassie]

Ask yourself this question , someone comes to your home buys a dog takes it home and decides for whatever reason they don't want the dog. As a breeder you are obligated to take it back as it is not a shirt that doesn't fit but a puppy Those people have wasted your time and money We require that the new owner take the puppy to their vet within 72 hrs for a well puppy check which begins a relationship between a new owner and their puppy. If they don't there is no guarantees. My guess is there is more to the story. I have seen young women come buy a puppy and take it home only to find out that their male dude boyfriend tells them it has to go. I don't know why this happens but it is not uncommon and what happens is people will lie and say something is wrong sigh it. People are liars. My guess is this person treated the puppy with an online diagnosis and made it worse which the experienced breeder recognized. As a breeder of 22 years we have heard and seen it all.

I think they have the vet bills to prove they took the puppy to the vet. And to accuse the buyer of deliberately trying to kill the puppy and saying they have proof of same is wrong. Plus utter baloney. I have had an encounter or two with unethical breeders in my life. One pawned a deaf puppy off on my elderly and naive mother. I have reason to believe the breeder knew darn well that puppy was deaf. Particularly since the sire of my mother's puppy, which this breeder owned and bred, had produced several deaf puppies in the past. I have proof of that, by the way. Then the breeder had the nerve to tell my mother that the reason the puppy was deaf was because she had it spayed. No, I am not making this up. My mother ended up keeping the puppy because by then she had bonded with it. This puppy had some other problems, too. Like a severe overbite. My mother knew about the overbite but not the deafness. This woman charged my mother $800 for a Maltese puppy that for all intents and purposes should have been free. My mother was desperate to get a puppy and she had money. This breeder saw my mother coming and took advantage of her.

 

[chickened]

Bottomline is you cannot blame the breeder for cocci or for the stupidity of the person who spent thousands at a vet for cocci treatment on an otherwise healthy puppy. This person IMO should not have a dog... Or kids.

 

[cassie]

Bottomline is you cannot blame the breeder for cocci or for the stupidity of the person who spent thousands at a vet for cocci treatment on an otherwise healthy puppy. This person IMO should not have a dog... Or kids.

You're right. But that doesn't give the breeder the right to keep the puppy AND the money paid for it. Or to make unfounded and false accusations.

 

[ChickensRDinos]

I have never bought a dog from a breeder but I have rescued a number of them and have on occasion signed contracts with very specific rules about how I must care for the dog and that if I can not take care of the dog, keep it under my roof, or at any point afford it's vet bills that I must give the dog back to that rescue and that they then keep the dog and the money that I have given them. I understand why they do this and rescuing dogs from a non-profit is very different than buying a puppy from a breeder but without seeing the contract it is really hard to know what they agreed to and exactly what happened or what the "proof" is.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I have dealt with [/FONT]Coccidia and a variety of other lovely parasites in recused dogs (they generally always come with something) and it was just a single vet visit followed by one medication. Something seems off with either the health of the dog, the care of the dog, or the vet. It should not have been hundreds of dollars or weeks of illness. Very confusing.

 

[chickened]

If the contract states they must return the dog and it states no refund and

You're right.  But that  doesn't give the breeder the right to keep the puppy AND the money paid for it.  Or to make unfounded and false accusations.

they signed it it means exactly that

 

[Bear Foot Farm]

Quote: Stress is not what causes Coccidiosis
The people are just going to have to work it out for themselves, since no one here knows the truth about what really is going on.

 

[cassie]

Just a comment. You are right of course, on all counts. But while stress does not cause cocci or any other disease directly, it affects the immune system which will make the critter more susceptible to cocci or anything else it is exposed to or is incubating. That said, I have acquired a number of puppies over the years, some from much less than ideal environments, and none of them came down with cocci. Fleas, yes. Worms, yes. Mange, yes. Cocci, no.

 

[oldrooster]

I have never bought a dog from a breeder but I have rescued a number of them and have on occasion signed contracts with very specific rules about how I must care for the dog and that if I can not take care of the dog, keep it under my roof, or at any point afford it's vet bills that I must give the dog back to that rescue and that they then keep the dog and the money that I have given them. I understand why they do this and rescuing dogs from a non-profit is very different than buying a puppy from a breeder but without seeing the contract it is really hard to know what they agreed to and exactly what happened or what the "proof" is.

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I have dealt with [/FONT]Coccidia and a variety of other lovely parasites in recused dogs (they generally always come with something) and it was just a single vet visit followed by one medication. Something seems off with either the health of the dog, the care of the dog, or the vet. It should not have been hundreds of dollars or weeks of illness. Very confusing.

Perhaps everyone who reads this thread if they are going to get ANY animal should shop around for a good vet first, and then if they want/need a spicific breed find a repitable breeder....

 

[ChickensRDinos]

Perhaps everyone who reads this thread if they are going to get ANY animal should shop around for a good vet first, and then if they want/need a spicific breed find a repitable breeder....

Or a rescue There are also pure breed dogs in rescues that need homes as well; some of them puppies. Finding a vet you trust is really key.

Who knows what happened in the OP's case. It is really hard to have any advice from so far away. Hopefully it will resolve in a way that is at least ok for all involved.