Question between Rhode Island Whites vs White Rocks

[Grampa with chickens]

Thanks, that helped alot. Now I have to go home and look better. Still don't know what I have but I'm leaning towards all RIW

WooHoo!

 

[walkswithdog]

Hey, any TIME my being wrong and confusing can help you out. You just let me know and I'll be there for ya...

Bwahahahahahahha

 

[Grampa with chickens]

Ok, I got home and had to run right out and look at questionable chickens.

They are all Rhode Island Whites

I'm so excited

That Comb thing was a great clue. All of them appear to be a rose comb.

A big THANK YOU to all of you that helped out especially "walkswithdog"

 

[Don P]

Sorry to add confusion but I would say Body Shape would be the best way to tell them apart if your hen does not have a rose comb. Because many RIW now have single combs, mine do.

Stromberg's sell RIW with a single comb http://www.strombergschickens.com/prod_detail_list/Best-Egg-Laying-Chickens
The Rhode Island White is a single comb,

So does E-Fowl - single comb
http://www.efowl.com/Rhode_Island_White_Chickens_p/2017.htm
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Traits: The Rose combed variation was the only variation of Rhode Island Whites to be admitted to the standard originally; however, the 2010 Standard of Perfection now discusses the Rhode Island Whites with Single combs which is now the most common variation. Their combs, face, wattles and earlobes should be bright red, their eyes reddish-brown, and their beak and legs yellow.
Good picture of the single comb RIW http://www.dare2dreamfarms.com/#!rhode-island-whites/c1ypx

The breed continued to be developed and improved so that it more closely resembled the Rhode Island Red’s brick-like body shape. This distinctive shape helped to prevent the breed from looking similar to and being confused with White Wyandottes or White Plymouth Rock chickens. The Rhode Island White is a moderately-sized, completely white bird with the males weighing 8 1/2 lbs. and females 6 1/2 lbs.

They have long, broad, and deep bodies which are carried horizontally, giving them an oblong and brick-like appearance overall. Their breasts are deep, full, and well rounded. Their heads are fairly deep and are inclined to be flat on top rather than round.

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Definition: Rare Heritage Breed RIW
Breed Description:
Legs & Beak: Yellow
Comb: Straight or Rose
Earlobes: Oblong, well defined, smooth, & red


And for the White Rocks we see :

White Plymouth Rock Chickens

White Plymouth Rock Chickens or White Rock Chickens are one of the most popular variations of the Plymouth Rock chicken breed along with the Barred Plymouth Rock and have been extremely popular in America since their introduction in 1869. Originally Plymouth Rocks were bred as a dual-purpose fowl, valued both for their meat and the hens' egg-laying abilities.

The ongoing and growing popularity of these chickens with the “backyard chicken” movement is largely due to it's docile and easily tamable nature, tendency to brood , long life expectancy, and excellent production of both eggs and meat. Families wishing to raise chickens at home as pets will find these friendly birds as an excellent choice.

White Plymouth Rocks are relatively large chickens. The face of the Plymouth Rock is red with red ear lobes, a bright yellow beak, bay-colored eyes, and a single comb of moderate size. Their feathers are fairly loosely held but do not easily tangle. The comb of this breed has five evenly serrated points with those in the front and rear shorter than those in the middle.

White Plymouth Rock Chickens lay large eggs that vary in color from light to medium brown, sometimes with a touch of pink. The birds continue laying all through the winter with decreased production. On average, each Plymouth Rock hen will lay around 200 eggs per year.

Product Facts
White Plymouth Rock Chicken Info

• Adult Weight - Male: 9.5 pounds ; Female: 6 pounds
• Color - White, Yellow Skin, Smaller Red Comb, Red Face and Earlobes

 

[Rancher3535]

Thank You Don...A true Rhode Island White does have a RC not a SC. I am so tired of hatcheries saying that they have RIW's ooppss oh they are single comb...NOT. A ture Rhode Island White has a RC not a SC. Most of the hatchery stock has had so much White Plymouth Rock added into them that at is what you are really getting.

I have my own line of RC Rhode Island Whites that i would put up against any RC or SC Rhode Island Reds and would bet them hands down.

This is one of my old old hens
Humm excellent tail, confirmation and OMG she has a RC not a SC.

This is one of her chicks hatched in Feb and look at it compared to the hatchery stuff. And this is only at 3 moths old.

 

[hammytammy]

Thank You Don...A true Rhode Island White does have a RC not a SC. I am so tired of hatcheries saying that they have RIW's ooppss oh they are single comb...NOT. A ture Rhode Island White has a RC not a SC. Most of the hatchery stock has had so much White Plymouth Rock added into them that at is what you are really getting.

I have my own line of RC Rhode Island Whites that i would put up against any RC or SC Rhode Island Reds and would bet them hands down.

This is one of my old old hens
Humm excellent tail, confirmation and OMG she has a RC not a SC.

This is one of her chicks hatched in Feb and look at it compared to the hatchery stuff. And this is only at 3 moths old.

ty

these birds of yours are great looking!

sooo,
a RIW has yellow beak and legs and rose comb
ive become very suspicious.
ive really been looking for this info re RIW vs WR

my supposed "RIW"s have white legs and single combs.
ty again
tammy

ps are the initials "RC" for rose comb?
or Ryan Carey stock--mentioned for sop rose comb riw on feathersite?

 

[Rancher3535]

ty

these birds of yours are great looking!

sooo,
a RIW has yellow beak and legs and rose comb
ive become very suspicious.
ive really been looking for this info re RIW vs WR

my supposed "RIW"s have white legs and single combs.
ty again
tammy

ps are the initials "RC" for rose comb?
or Ryan Carey stock--mentioned for sop rose comb riw on feathersite?

Thank you! You should see them now as older birds. RC is for Rose Comb. You can view my set of pictures on my facebook page if you want to give you a little better idea of what I am working with.

This is the link to the Rhode Island Photo page so I hope it gets you there to see them. If not the one below is to the ranch page and you should be able to go to photo/album from there.

RIW - Photo Album
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/....1073741832.539810502704477&type=3&uploaded=3

Rockin R Ranch page.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rockin-R-Ranch/539810502704477

The RIW's you have are commercial hatchery run type of birds. The originator of the breed wanted them and made them RC not SC. Hatcheries have "made" their line for the purpose of making sex-links. If sex-links is what they are after then why not use a RC Red on the RCW and get a RC Sex-link? This is only my opinion but they had to put a lot of some kind of a single comb into their line of birds.

There are only an handful of people who have RIW's which is really to bad. I have been trying to find and make a spread sheet of info on each breeder so we can start to communicate back and forth to help build a good solid line of true RIW's.

I am not an expert on this breed but please feel free to ask any question about RIW's. I am sure someone has enough knowledge to help you and myself out on them.

 

[hammytammy]

rancher

thanks-- i went to your link and what a great RANCH you have!

im going to check out your cow breed some , just out of interest.
what id really like is to get some eggs or chicks from you or someone you recommend. those birds sure are fine.

thanks for the heads up on the pinched tail.
please post what you get re breeders.
and btw, are those irises a special type?
tammy

 

[Rancher3535]

As for the Iris I think there is like 24 varieties and 27 different daffodils.

You cannot ask for a better breed of cattle to raise, (Murray Grey) rather on a small farm or large ranch. They are very easy keepers, not fence riders, great gain and in draught they put the pounds on the calves not themselves. They come if four different colors…silver, light dun, dark dun and the all famous black.

I dressed out some of the RIW cockerel at about 28 weeks old and the average was 5 pounds. The girls lay really well as far as I am concerned. Mom started to lay in October of 2013 and just stopped this last week to go into her molt. In that year she might have missed two week total in egg production ... just a day here and there.

 

[tennboy1]

I am trying to get RIW with rose comb to breed here in East Tennessee. If anyone can help me please private message me. I would post my phone number but I got in trouble when I did that before. Thank you. Stephen