Question regarding BCM x CCL and CCL X BCM

[oregonkat]

I was hoping one of you genetics folks could answer a question for me. My BCM x CCL cross produced 2 sexlinked pure black pullets and 2 barred cocks (10 weeks give or take now), if the cross had been the other way around, CCL X BCM would my pullets have been barred? A poster on another forum posted pics of this cross, and the resulting pullet is gorgeous, barred and beautiful!

 

[Sneebsey]

That's correct. Hens can only pass barring onto their sons, cockerels, provided they have two copies of the gene, will pass one copy on to all of their offspring, hence, barred pullets.

 

[nicalandia]

I was hoping one of you genetics folks could answer a question for me. My BCM x CCL cross produced 2 sexlinked pure black pullets and 2 barred cocks (10 weeks give or take now), if the cross had been the other way around, CCL X BCM would my pullets have been barred? A poster on another forum posted pics of this cross, and the resulting pullet is gorgeous, barred and beautiful!

Correct, a CCL rooster over a BCM or any Birchen or Black based hen will result in both genders being black/birchen barred

 

[oregonkat]

That's correct. Hens can only pass barring onto their sons, cockerels, provided they have two copies of the gene, will pass one copy on to all of their offspring, hence, barred pullets.

Thank you very much. Do CCL cockerels carry two copies of the barring gene just by virtue of their breed? I have a young CCL cockerel that I have been debating selling, but now I think I may keep him to cover my BCM hens.

 

[Sneebsey]

If they're from good stock, they ought to, as the barring is part of what makes them autosexing; can only find out for sure by trying it out though.

 

[nicalandia]

Thank you very much. Do CCL cockerels carry two copies of the barring gene just by virtue of their breed? I have a young CCL cockerel that I have been debating selling, but now I think I may keep him to cover my BCM hens.

True breeding CCL roosters are double barred, but I have heard bad stories about Green Fire Farms shipping single barred roosters, at least when they started selling CCL stock

 

[oregonkat]

True breeding CCL roosters are double barred, but I have heard bad stories about Green Fire Farms shipping single barred roosters, at least when they started selling CCL stock

GFF????!!! Really? Aren't they top 'dog' when it comes to breeds?

 

[The Moonshiner]

GFF????!!! Really? Aren't they top 'dog' when it comes to breeds?

Top dog at high prices at least.
Really though they are top dog at bringing new breeds into the market.
But their quality can be lacking. I had a batch of their legbars and many laid green eggs.
I find it best to wait till a breed they have has been on the market for 2 or 3 years and then if you look hard enough you can find a breeder with better prices and birds that they have improved on from original stock.
Of course a lot of breeders aren't improving just breeding but some do put a lot of effort into their breedings.

 

[nicalandia]

Top dog at high prices at least.
Really though they are top dog at bringing new breeds into the market.
But their quality can be lacking. I had a batch of their legbars and many laid green eggs..

True.

If you check the early posts on the Rhodebars breed you will see that a few posters also were getting green eggs from their "Rhodebars", but that was years ago, I think they got their act together at least on Rhodebars and CCL, but I haven't been following the CCL and Rhodebars thread so I am not 100% sure of that