Questions about N.P.I.P. certification.

[Laurieks]

...to sell birds or eggs, all importing states do require a VS 9-3 form to accompany a shipment across state lines.
The 9-3 is a verification that the flockowner belongs to NPIP and the birds are certified for certain diseases as clean.
I am sure not all shipments are caught, but once caught shipping without the form, I do receive a letter from the state alerting me that they confiscated a shipment that is not certified.
Also, if you attend any poultry shows, most states now are requiring NPIP status to attend.

...from the CA Poultry Health Board Administrator in a discussion about need to join or not with a small flock that has been healthy forever.
She is sending me the packet, and says getting certified takes 1-3 months. Will post more info as it comes, if you like.
She also said she is not affiliated with NAIS, but they have access to her data base.
:whimper:​

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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A national program run federally would be; but when the administration of the program is delegated to the states, there are differences from state to state. Medicaid is an example of a state administered federal program. Medicare is an example of a federally administered federal program.

FWIW, mandatory particiation in NAIS is illegal under Arizona Statutes.

 

[slc]

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It has!! Wisconsin is mandatory NAIS! The state has accepted $35 million from the USDA to implement the NAIS as a State program. This is a nightmare folks, it is very much reality.
How did this happen? I guess we were distracted by federal NAIS while they visited the back door of our State with their wallets open.

They are going door to door finding people who haven't gotten the "premises ID" which is mandatory not voluntary. They are dragging Amish to court. Revoking farmers licenses. All kinds of very scary things. See the first link below.

According to the Wisconsin Livestock Identification Consortium linked from the Wisconsin premises ID page their "plan" is the one and only NAIS and it has three stages:
1. Premises ID
2. Mandatory RFID microchipping of all animals (RFID ISO 11784/11785 for you tech heads)
3. Tracking and that means filing reports within 48 hours of any sale (including hatching eggs), purchase, butchering, death, movement to or from your property (ie fairs, swaps), animals lost or stolen, or killed by a predator.

If you don’t comply the State may not issue you a license, or will revoke the ones you have. They can fine you $1000-$5000 a pop and or sentence you to 6 months jail time if they want to. They are testing to see if their enforcement will hold up in court and they are using an Amish farmer who only wished to live by his religion. What a bunch of dirt bags!

Once you sign up for the premises ID you grant the state authority to conduct searches and seizure and they can conduct surveillance of your private property without your knowledge or permission. No warrant is required. They can walk onto your property, into your barn or coop and count and scan your animals and you have no recourse. You also agree to all existing rules AND ANY NEW ONES THEY ADD IN THE FUTURE that we don’t even know about yet.

Is registering your "premises ID" really that big of a deal, I mean it's free right? Don't count on it! When all three stages are in full swing how do you think the State will be funding this?

Visit the WLIC site below and look at the cost calculator in the startup section: $3254.90 average for all the equipment and software YOU will need to chip your animals. After that at least $300 per year for software licenses. This DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ACTUAL CHIPS. So if you don’t buy the equipment? I’m sure the State will do it for a fee, of course, and they can give your property a good inspection while they’re there.

Sorry for the rant. I feel like I’ve been sold into slavery. I’m just very mad. We all should be very mad.

Visit this one first
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Today-is-the-most-TERRIBLE-by-Linn-Cohen-Cole-081217-815.html

State of Wisconsin- http://www.datcp.state.wi.us/premises/index.jsp

Wisconsin Livestock Identification Consortium (WLIC)- http://www.wiid.org/index.php?action=wlicnew_about

Visit “What to do if the NAIS comes knocking”-
http://www.familyfarmdefenders.org/index.php/FoodSovereignty/WhatToDoIfTheNAISComesKnocking

 

[js21]

every states NPIP is slightly different, testing is a simple thing, a prick on the wing to get blood and antigen, its done for most right at your farm. for most places what the test is looking for has not been found, in a long time, I said most, in general NPIP means that you flock is free of pullorum. it is a very bad disease and can decimate a flock very fast and even kill chicks in the shell. in WI you need to be certified to sell chicks, hatching eggs and adults, and it is not free and must be retested every year, but there is also a program that is called WI certified which is the same as npip but is free if you show or sell in WI. also if you show most want you to be NPIP

I also live in WI and am trying to figure out how to become npip certified. So it is Not free, correct?
Also, what if I only wanted a few of my flock to get tested? The one's I would be most interested in selling?

 

[redchick2]

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NPIP is to certify your flock is free of Influenza and Pullorum. If any of
your birds turn up positive for one of those two diseases why on earth
would you want to keep them? I don't think you understand the severity
of the diseases they test for.

MG & MS, on the other hand, are not part of NPIP, at least in my state, and
if any of your birds turn up with those you make the decision what to do
with them.

I Think the concern is losing the whole flock if 1 bird was possitive

 

[Kaneese]

I live in Mississippi and I want to get the NPIP certification but when I called they said I needed a minimum of 30 chickens to be tested. Now I have 26 chickens but all under 5 months old which I was told I would have to wait until they reach the right age but what about the fact that I only have 26 feathery friends? Should I get a few more chickens or do they just test what you have or can I not get NPIP certified at all unless I add more to the flock? I just wonder how people who only keep a few chickens and sell extra eggs how they can "get-a-way" with selling eggs if they are not certified?

 

[Egghead_Jr]

NPIP is only needed to transport/ship eggs and birds across state lines.

 

[Egghead_Jr]

I also live in WI and am trying to figure out how to become npip certified. So it is Not free, correct?
Also, what if I only wanted a few of my flock to get tested? The one's I would be most interested in selling?

The entire flock is tested. Who's to say you didn't recently get a few birds prior to the testing and they've yet to contaminate your flock? There is a reasoning behind testing the entire flock then deeming the flock closed. Meaning you can not bring in new birds unless from another NPIP source. With this kind of security some states only require a random sample in following years after the initial entire flock test. Most states require full flock testing every year unless over a threshold of number of birds- 500 birds for example would only require random sample tests. Again, it's all states specific as to the details. The general program is federal.