Well, I just couldn't put those tools down. Now look what we went and built. I started out by myself but DH couldn't stand it and had to help. We had it made in only 5 hours! I used the ideas I found here on BYC. Because you guys are pretty darn smart and I wanted to have a neat little pen for the use. I knew in my head how it should look so I marked the boards, DH sawed and screwed the frame together and we added the wire. Even the door wasn't so hard this time! Originally I was going to use it for my new chickens coming in but since we have a bad boy roo right now we put him in it. He is very offended that he has to be picked up twice a day to go in and out of the barn but this pen is good for just day use. I think I will build about 4 or 5 more since they move around so easy but I plan to make it more predator proof. It measures 4X6 and is 32" high so I can reach inside. Remember, I am not a builder!