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My only DD is like your younger one.........I already have grey hairs LOL! We had family counseling for her as well and it drove the counselors up the wall because their "so called talks" was not working LOL! I would be firm and consistence but she would test and test some more with hubby until she pushed the wrong buttons. What is ODD? Does my DD have any empathy? Not really, she would laugh when someone gets hurt but gets upset when her Gretl (her SSH Bantam hen) is considered.
My only DD is like your younger one.........I already have grey hairs LOL! We had family counseling for her as well and it drove the counselors up the wall because their "so called talks" was not working LOL! I would be firm and consistence but she would test and test some more with hubby until she pushed the wrong buttons. What is ODD? Does my DD have any empathy? Not really, she would laugh when someone gets hurt but gets upset when her Gretl (her SSH Bantam hen) is considered.