Rant: Feeding Live to Reptiles

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I agree with you Iowa Roo Mom....Boyd isn't the immature one here. LGB seems to like to post her issues, but doesn't like to hear it if you don't agree with her viewpoint.
 
I had 2 ball pythons and they both ate frozen (heated in hot water) and just killed bought from pet store, when they went out of business had no choice but to go with live I did not like it and ended up buying a rat that the others had attacked and was going to die a slow death anyway ended up with a rat as a pet because snake would not eat it, both snakes have died now and i would rather feed frozen or just killed then live, but each person must do what is best for their animal. I am not sure if there is a right answer but at least as long as all the animals are treated well then I believe it is okay. it is the way of things either you are the hunter or they prey just the way of life.
 
LGB seems to like to post her issues, but doesn't like to hear it if you don't agree with her viewpoint

That observation applies to most people, most of the time. Everyone has an opinion, and everyone thinks they are right. And people take everything personally.
 
Everyone SHOULD know that when you post something, there are going to be all kinds of opinions. Yeah, I get irritated too, but I TRY not to post my irritation. If it bugs you, move on.
 
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The easy solution is if you don't like how someone treats the animals you raise as snake food-Stop making money this way. Somehow the whole thing seems hypocritical to me. Understand, I have no problem with the practiceof feeding live rodents to snakes. Just have problem understanding the OP's attitude.
 
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When we had a ball python we didnt live close to anywhere that sold live so just fed frozen. More of a matter of location than anything really.
 
Well, I'm not posting my problems. Just something I saw. Anyways, I would PREFER people purchase from me, instead of the pet store here (abuses their animals, don't feed the puppies all day and force feed them by nice, BUT they're not out of business??? Drug front, the media believes, they're figuring it out). I don't MAKE any money on my rodents. Period. Goes straight back into the boogers and that's all.

Point being, when you run a reptile rescue (or at least USED to) it's just amazing how many snakes come in all blistered up and whatever from rat bites, bad care, etc. etc. etc. It's just funny how people have all these reasons for feeding live: oh, it's more natural, oh it's more fun, oh it's easier on me, oh oh oh oh! HAVE YOU ever spent $300 on a snake before due to rodent infections and whatnot? Have YOU ever had to put snakes down due to being bitten so badly by other reptiles it's silly? Have YOU seen what a rodent can do to your snake?!?!

Anyone who feeds live, TAKES the risk of what could/may or may not happen.

I don't care IF you feed live, but it shouldn't be "for fun." There should be a good reason to why you do it. I suppose "witnessing" nature is an alright (I'm not oppose to watching it, I do it at times, because well, the snakes won't eat dead, but I'm working on it), but no animal should be fed live just because "You're too lazy" or "it's more natural."

And actually, yes, snakes in real life, will eat a dead prey if given a chance. They're scavengers from time to time. Should have seen ALL the snakes I found last year on the road trying to choke down a jerkied frog/toad/bird. And yes, I will get out of my car, move a snake off the road, so others won't run over it.

The lady can go ahead and feed live to her rodents. Point being, I was just in awe, because this is a very sweet lady with children of her own and I was just wow'd by how she put it.

I didn't come into breeding rodents to make "money" off it, I did it in order to know that at least my snakes and maybe a few other people who care about the lives of their rodents (or at least, want cheaper rodents) could offer something better than pet store rodents in care, nutrition, etc. But to make a disrespectful statement like that was sort of off.
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What can ya do about it?

Plus Katy, I don't care IF you disagree with me. As stated, I would prefer GOOD comment and input, not something to start a fight/war. You are taking things all out of balance and honestly, assumptions are just silly. I don't MIND your opinions or someone elses, but I'm stating, professionals, at least the ones who care about their animals, don't put their animals through "live" feedings unless they necessarily have to. If you don't like what I'm typing or stating, PLEASE move along and don't read my posts. Quit picking on me, please! I don't post these things to start up a fight, they're just my thoughts and something rant, to share with others, etc. Have you not noticed I don't even post anymore? I'm fed up with you hounding over me like everything I do and/or say is wrong/right. Obviously, you know more about reptiles than I do??????

These are rants, I don't go through my life yelling at people for feeding live to their reptiles. Is THAT alright with YOU? Just because I post it online does not mean, "oh low and behold I must stop my life, for all is wrong and I am suffering!!!" *screeches* Nope, just me giving my thoughts about something!

I think people who feed lives are beginners (yes, I went through this phase of "OH HOW COOL, FEED LIVE!") and/or have a sort of twisted mindset or haven't learned yet. Sometimes, believe it or not, this mindset of not doing the best for your reptiles is what leads to people doing the wrong things (setting their snakes free, putting them down the drain, putting them in a trashcan - yes, all of which I have encountered!!!).

Reptiles are an "off" type of pet - you either get one and get tired of it, get one and get hooked, get one and go crazy and maybe a few other things. They're tricky, in a sense, people get to kill something to feed them! That you have the chance to feed live to them. I'm just an advocate for better care and handling and doing the best you can to give them the best care possible! Too many people misunderstand them, too many people fear them, too many people just have the wrong idea of them in particular. I have witnessed on multiple accounts on people swerving to run over them! Everyone who sees a snake, or most, think it will kill them! But little is known, there aren't that many venomous snakes out there, that they avoid us as much as we "try" to avoid them. Now when you see a dog, most people don't go running off and running into it (though I know those who will *face plant*) with their car or whatnot, they take it home and blah blah blah.

Reptiles are my area of expertise and yes there are many variables to it and yes, there are a lot of rights and wrongs to it, sort of a controversial issue like abortion or going "green" or other such ideas. So yes, it is hard to just NOT shake your head and think "oh gosh, how ignorant!" I see it everyday and I've learned to live, laugh and just when I can, share information and knowledge about it.

Now if you have issues with that, I don't know what you want me to do. Pretend I'm all happy dappy and agree with everyone's thoughts all the time? I'm nearly one of the most open-minded person there is out there, but I will battle with ya if you offer it.

Sorry I "don't agree" with anyone and "think I have to be right all the time," but maybe you need to stop and just take a breather.
 
And sorry, didn't read all of it, was out of town and just wanted to check in.
Didn't bring it up to fight, I just had other things to do! Sorry, but BYC is not my entire life (or most of it anyways ha).

Iono, to me, it just seems strange to sort of dampen other animals' lives for the sake of another (unless it's for good reasoning).
If you want to feed live, go ahead, if you want to feed dead, go ahead, but blah.

I don't care if Boyd feeds lives or dead or whatever, but to say that it doesn't matter on the life of the animals, is just wow
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An animal must sacrifice it's life to feed your pet and you don't even care? It's just another cute squeaky thing to kill?
Hmm... I find it hard to believe that people can be so two-faced on animals at time.

BTW, feeding frozen/thawed isn't the best also, I believe the best way possible is pre-killed.
Freezing can kill all the nutrients just similar to human foods. Honestly though, research it. lol
 
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Hmmmmm, so let me get this straight, now you're telling me not to read your posts and I can't even respond to agree with what someone else said on your thread? I haven't responded to any post/thread of yours in quite some time......so I'd hardly say I'm picking on you.
 
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