re cocci is not normal what to do urgent I have done it all!

[Sonoran Silkies]

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If they had cocci there would be bloody droppings and you say there are no bloody dropping, so I wouldn't treat them for that.
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Most coccidia do not cause bloody droppings, although the ones that are the most rapidly fatal do. The Merck Veterinary Manual has a good discussion on the various coccidia that infest poultry (also those for other creatures).​

 

[Katy]

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Most coccidia do not cause bloody droppings, although the ones that are the most rapidly fatal do. The Merck Veterinary Manual has a good discussion on the various coccidia that infest poultry (also those for other creatures).

Really? That's always been one of the first questions the vet asks me if I've got a critter with diarreha(sp?). I always thought there was blood if it was coccidia.....I've always been pretty lucky I guess, never had an issue with it in my chicken pens....although I'm sure it's there since they say it's everywhere....knock on wood that I don't have to deal with it there. One of my outside cats had it one time and we've had a couple of young calves that had it but that's it.

 

[hinkjc]

It sounds like the chicks are being put out too soon imo. The first chill is most deadly. If there is cool air coming into that pen from anywhere, it can cause these symptoms as well. I want to be clear though, that you need a balance of warmth and proper ventilation. IMO this can only be done in an enclosed pen/coop (with a floor) or inside in a brooder (both which require a heat lamp and thick bedding underfoot and room to move away from the heat if they get too hot). Rabbit hutches do not make good chick brooders in my opinion due to the open bottom which keeps their feet and underbelly cold. It can also limit their ability to get away from the heat if the pen is too small. Pics would help to see if this is the issue going on here.

 

[chickencoop31320]

I think chilling or too much heat could be a factor.
I have recently had a problem with this; I moved some silkie and bantie chicks outside at about 1 month old. The temps at night/day were ok for the first couple days and everyone seemed alright, then the temp dropped like a rock the third night (and they didn’t have a light). When I came out to check on them, one of the banties was lying on his back and others were trampling him, and a little silkie was looking sickly. I took them into the house and put them under a light... an hour later they were back to normal. I kept them in the house for about 2 weeks and put the same 2 chicks back out with another batch that were about a month old. They have been out in a 4x5 brooder with a 60w lamp and a wire floor for about 2 weeks now. Again night before last the temps really got down and I went out yesterday morning to feed/water and here was the same little bantie acting all weak and falling down. I was upset but thought to myself "if he's going to go, he's going to go." I also thought about culling him, I hate to see my babies suffer. I had a very busy day and didn’t have a chance to check on him until my husband got home about 18:00 last night (plus I was trying to avoid culling him myself too). I asked my husband to go look as I was getting feed for them, I told him which chick and he said “you mean the one that’s running all over acting fine?” I looked and was amazed! He was acting fine, eating and running around like nothing had happened.
This makes me think that getting chilled is making him act funky.
If you have a lot of chicks in a small space, they could be stressed already and too much heat or a cold draft could be making them die very quickly... JMHO
I hope you get it figured out before you have anymore losses.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/200800.htm

 

[Katy]

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I believe you, it's just not what I had always thought and been told, but thanks for the link.