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Apolinne

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Hello friends,

wonderful people here helped me with my ducks multiple times, so I ask you for your wisdom once more.

TL;DR : my indian runners have been sick since they were about 2 weeks old - detailed symptoms below - They are doing ok from what I can tell, the vet said they are ok and to keep an eye on them. It may be one issue or multiple I don't know really. I wonder: Did anyone experience something similar ? Is there anything I can do to help them ? Most importantly I have too many drakes. Is it ok to get more ducks or give a drake to a friend? (as it may potentially be mycoplasma, wasn't tested)

at 2 weeks old:
all ducks
- watery eye discharge,
- sneezing that got progressively more frequent
--> treatment: 3rd week - antibiotics (tiamulinum- brand name denagard ) for 5 days, symptoms cleared gradually

at 4 weeks old
- 1 duck: eye redness
- 1 duck: eye redness, stuffy nose, puffy cheeks
- 2 ducks: stuffy nose but no eye redness
--> treatment: 5th week - antibiotics (tiamlulinum) for 6 days, eye redness improved

at 6 weeks old
- the eye redness gradually disappeared
- stuffy nose breathing remained
- 2 ducks got puffy cheeks again
- occasional coughing in all ducks
---> treatment: apple cider vinegar in water, extra poultry vitamins in water, fresh oregano in feed

at 7 weeks old
- coughing got more frequent but than gradually better, and later disappeared in most ducks

since 8 weeks old
- 2 oldest ducks, both drakes, still continue to have congested noses on and off and occasionally puffy cheeks, sometimes raspy cough (in the meantime they started to develop their adult rasp but sound very quiet)
- some of the ducks have stuffy noses some days but not other, or do in the morning but not in the evening
- all through the progression of whatever is going on I find the occasional brown diarrhoea in the coop or outside, but it's like one or two poos like that a day with 8 ducks total, and it seems it's always a different duck.

I took them to the vet again at 8 weeks old. He said there is no inflammation or soreness to the touch in the trachea. Does not recommend testing as it would be a waste of money if there is no collectable discharge and the tests would be inconclusive. The first two times he prescribed antibiotics that are primarily used for mycoplasma and it did help. But the ducks never had any discharge from the nares and they were never tested for mycoplasma.

I don't think it's the bedding, as they had 3 different types of bedding since this all started. I wonder if it might be fungal as we do have some mold issues in the ground floor of our house, but the garage area they are in is dry, well ventilated and has no mold. We store food there because it is well ventilated.

The vet thinks whatever they have now is probably viral and moved from the upper respiratory tract to the lower respiratory system and said I should just keep giving them vitamins and observe and call him if anything changes. Nothing much changed since the cough got a bit better. They are all doing all right, seem happy, eat well, I just hate hearing the raspy ugly cough, though it is infrequent. The two boys are the only ones that still cough and since they started moulting into their nuptial feathers they seem a little bit less energetic than before but I figured it might be due to the moult, but I don't know. These are literally my first ducks ever.

In conclusion: What the duck ? I read all threads I could find on respiratory problems - I see lot of people recommend something called VetRX or Oxine. I checked and none of those are available where I live. So what do I do ? How can I help them ? Do I just wait ?
Also I should probably not give a potentially sick duck to a friend, right ? Especially since they might have mycoplasma. Question is: is it ok if I get more ducks to adjust the ratio ? Or should I wait with that as well ?

I'm sorry for the saga, thank you to whomever read the whole thing. 🦆
 
I would not give a sick duck to anyone. Vet RX is sold online and at some feed stores. Oxine ah I have always had to order on line.
I’m so sorry they are still having problems have they been tested for Aspergillosis? It’s fungal.
 
I would not give a sick duck to anyone. Vet RX is sold online and at some feed stores. Oxine ah I have always had to order on line.
I’m so sorry they are still having problems have they been tested for Aspergillosis? It’s fungal.
Miss Lydia :) I really need to find a way to repay your kindness, you answer all of my posts. 🌸
I don't really want to give any of them away, for selfish reasons, but also giving a friend a potentially problematic duck does not sit well with me, even tho she says it's fine. (She lost her drake to a fox in April and I promised her one of mine, if I have extra.)
But that leaves me with 3 drakes and 5 ducks, which is not great and in this situation getting more ducks is equally as much a potential problem isn't it ? They too can get sick. If it's mycoplasma it's for life. What do I do ? The vet said to wait. How long do I wait ?

They haven't been tested for anything as the vet said there is no point if they have no discharge, which they only did at the beginning.
How do they test for aspergillosis? Cultures?

I mean, I am not too worried at this point, because they seem to be doing just fine. And it's only really Harold and Hubert who show symptoms every day. The rest of the guys are pretty much fine.
It's just annoying you know, It's one of those things that's always in the back of my mind with no conclusion. So I wanted to know what might a more experienced duck owner do in my place.
 
IF it's aspergillus i dont think theres any discharge and it can be testing with a throat swab I believe. Is you vet avian? If you can afford it why not demand the test (even if he thinks its unnecessary)
I wish I could afford to bring my ducks to avian vet sometimes.
http://www.majesticwaterfowl.org/diagnostic chart.htm

http://www.majesticwaterfowl.org/mmissue84.htm
It is an avian vet, yes, but his subspecialty are birds of prey. He helps the local wildlife sanctuary with their falcons and owls. Very nice guy.
But it's not very common here to keep waterfowl as pets, which makes things complicated. For example I asked about vaccinations and he said that there is no way to vaccinate in small flocks, because the smallest available vaccine doses are for 150 birds. I have 8 :D
I'll get them tested. It's not the cheapest thing ever but it won't ruin me either. He did say it can easily be false positive, and cultures can be contaminated from just whatever is in the ducks mouth. But better safe than sorry right ?
 
I called the vet, made an appointment for testing. But there has been a development of symptoms, however not in the two drakes with the worst respiratory problems. Videos of Vigo and Eliza attached. They were panting and closing their eyes. Vigo did this once before, like a week ago. but not Eliza, I saw Eliza behave like this for the first time today. Is this gapeworm maybe ? It's not heat or stress, that I'm sure.
Should I get these guys tested as well ? They were affected by the previous respiratory issues only very minimally, little bit of congested breathing when all of the flock was in the thick of it.

Vigo:
Eliza:
 
I called the vet, made an appointment for testing. But there has been a development of symptoms, however not in the two drakes with the worst respiratory problems. Videos of Vigo and Eliza attached. They were panting and closing their eyes. Vigo did this once before, like a week ago. but not Eliza, I saw Eliza behave like this for the first time today. Is this gapeworm maybe ? It's not heat or stress, that I'm sure.
Should I get these guys tested as well ? They were affected by the previous respiratory issues only very minimally, little bit of congested breathing when all of the flock was in the thick of it.

Vigo:
Eliza:
These are beautiful ducks, but I don’t get any audio on the video and I think it’s a problem on my end. I haven’t been able to hear any of the YouTube videos that people on BackyardChickens post. I don’t know why.
 

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