ring necks and Melanistic Mutant

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  1. wing it

    wing it Chillin' With My Peeps

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    can ring necks and Melanistic Mutant be brooded togather? I am look for about + - 15 day olds of each any sugguestions as to where to buy? thank you
     
  2. spectrumranch

    spectrumranch Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:Melanistic Mutant aka "Blacks" are ringnecks. Of the 20 some different colors of domestic Ringnecks they are basically the same bird just different color mutations. There is a little difference in size of some mutations, like platinums are smaller and Jumbos are the largest.

    We have raised all 20 plus colors together.
     
  3. Eagle2026

    Eagle2026 HIGH FLYER

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    So where does that put the Green pheasants from Japan at?

    Nice to hear from ya Randy!
     
  4. Eagle2026

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    It's my understanding that a true Green will breed true (meaning that you either get a ringneck or a Green...Not to make a melanistic)?
    C'mon help us out Randy.
     
  5. spectrumranch

    spectrumranch Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:I assume you mean a Versicolor Ringneck, which is refered to as a Green pheasant by some. Versicolors are a true wild ringneck pheasant. True wild ringnecks can be raised with domestic ringnecks, but because of the rarity and cost, I would recommend keeping them seperate or toe clipping/punching to keep birds identified.
     
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  6. spectrumranch

    spectrumranch Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:Is this a trick question?

    "a ringneck or a green".............. a green is a ringneck.

    Yes Versicolors will breed true- meaning a pair of Versicolors will produce 100% versicolor offspring.

    Maybe i should ask you- what color do you think the bird is that you posted photos of?
     
  7. Eagle2026

    Eagle2026 HIGH FLYER

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    Thank you, and yes.
    But, as it has been awhile since I have talked with anyone about this I was totally backwards.
    I have pictured my Melanistic's which I have been telling my friends were Greens.

    Thank you once agian for setting me straight.
    I'll give ya a call sometime.
    Mike Humphreys
    Yellow golden off Eggbid 2005
     
  8. Eagle2026

    Eagle2026 HIGH FLYER

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    I belive that it's the Melanstic's that breed true, Right?
     
  9. wing it

    wing it Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I did know that they where both ring necks, just not how they get on togather. I have a pen/ room that is about 10"x10" that I was thinking of setting up as a brood room and did not know if it should be devieded. These birds are being raised for released on to farm/wooded land is 16 to 18 weeks ok to do that . any sugguestions as to who has good birds? Again Thank you for all the info
     
  10. spectrumranch

    spectrumranch Chillin' With My Peeps

    Quote:Wild type Ringencks- Versicolor, Zarundy, Bianchi, Kirghiz, Chinese, Formosan, etc, etc ALL breed true (if pure).

    Domestic Ringnecks- Blacks, Buff, White, Jumbo, Blackneck, Alaskan Snow, Common Chinese will breed true if they are not crossed with an other color.

    Domestic Green ringnecks, used to be called Green Mutants, will breed true but they tend to have a wide variance in coloration. Alot of Greens are results from crossings with Blacks or Common Chinese Ringnecks.

    Platinum Ringencks will produce both Platinum and Bluebacks.

    Any of the Pied Ringnecks- Green, Buff, Chinese, Blue will produce both Pied and solid birds.

    Blue & Silver Ringnecks- It is my theory that they will produce true once there is enough birds and genetic diversity that they do not need to be out crossed to other colors. We have already seen this in Blues- a Blue male bred with a Blue hen will produce 100% Blue chicks. The Silver Ringenck was produced from Blues, With only a hand full of Silver Ringnecks in existence there needs to be more outcrossing to strenghten the line. I can also see that Blues will eventually be divided into their own seperate colors- like Solid Blue, and Patterned Blues as there is a distinct variance among them.

    Chocolate Ringecks are a color we bred. They are the result of crossing Blue Ringneck males on Black hens- which produced Chocolates. Being that they carried the Blue gene, our 2nd generation Chocolate Ringnecks produced both Chocolate and Blue Ringnecks. I have seen several people trying to pass birds off as Chocolates, which were not.

    Red Buff and Buff Isabels will breed true, but there are alot of them that carry other hidden color genes so they will produce other colors.

    White Jumbo Ringnecks- will produce some birds that are pure white and some birds that have a little speckling, about like an Alaskan Snow.

    I am no expert- this is just my observation from raising them.
     

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