Roos or Pullets?

[CRYPTICASIAN]

Hey, i have 2 17 week old lavender orpingtons and im not allowed to keep any roosters in my area and im not sure if these are roosters or hens, #1 is on the log and #2 on the cinder blocks.

 

[Mrs. K]

They look like pullets to me.

 

[CRYPTICASIAN]

thats what i was thinking too, i think i head some crowing today, but that might have been the black and white silkie thats the same age but i dont know how to sex them either, also they neck feathers seem to be longer and thinner then the other hens i have.

 

[Gavinthechickenman]

Pullets

 

[Ilovechickens2525]

Do you have clearer pictures of the tail feathers on the second one?