Rooster cant shoot directly inside hens cloaca

[Tontstee]

My rooster cannot shoot his sperm inside the hens cloaca its on the outer surface of the cloaca of the hen. And i need to push the sperm on the center and the hens cloaca is moving like absorbing it. Will that fertilized the egg?

 

[SnackMeat]

It should so long as you do this within 30 min or so of ejaculation.

You can also consider artificial insemination, if you're in a hurry for fertilized eggs. I don't have the video at the moment but there's several decent to good ones online.

If you've ever had to express the anal glands on a dog, it's like that but less pressure.

What I've read is to do it two days in a row in the afternoon because that way they would have laid their morning egg and gotten the egg out of the way that couldn't be fertilized, because the shell was already formed.

I have read within 72 hours you should have a fertilized eggs, with the shortest amount of time suggested is 25 hours (which I've read is how long it takes to form an egg.)


It sounds like you have an immature rooster (unless he has a foot/leg issues) so it could take weeks or months for him to figure it out, if he ever does (which he should but I'm sure there's some dips who never figure it out.)

 

[Tontstee]

It should so long as you do this within 30 min or so of ejaculation.

You can also consider artificial insemination, if you're in a hurry for fertilized eggs. I don't have the video at the moment but there's several decent to good ones online.

If you've ever had to express the anal glands on a dog, it's like that but less pressure.

What I've read is to do it two days in a row in the afternoon because that way they would have laid their morning egg and gotten the egg out of the way that couldn't be fertilized, because the shell was already formed.

I have read within 72 hours you should have a fertilized eggs, with the shortest amount of time suggested is 25 hours (which I've read is how long it takes to form an egg.)


It sounds like you have an immature rooster (unless he has a foot/leg issues) so it could take weeks or months for him to figure it out, if he ever does (which he should but I'm sure there's some dips who never figure it outi think n

It should so long as you do this within 30 min or so of ejaculation.

You can also consider artificial insemination, if you're in a hurry for fertilized eggs. I don't have the video at the moment but there's several decent to good ones online.

If you've ever had to express the anal glands on a dog, it's like that but less pressure.

What I've read is to do it two days in a row in the afternoon because that way they would have laid their morning egg and gotten the egg out of the way that couldn't be fertilized, because the shell was already formed.

I have read within 72 hours you should have a fertilized eggs, with the shortest amount of time suggested is 25 hours (which I've read is how long it takes to form an egg.)


It sounds like you have an immature rooster (unless he has a foot/leg issues) so it could take weeks or months for him to figure it out, if he ever does (which he should but I'm sure there's some dips who never figure it out.)

He fertilized a lot of egg from other hen.
I think my hen is too small thats why he cannot shoot it and getting hard time.

Thank you for your answer i think i will consider the artificial insemination. But i need to do more research how to harvest the sperm of the rooster.

 

[NatJ]

My rooster cannot shoot his sperm inside the hens cloaca its on the outer surface of the cloaca of the hen. And i need to push the sperm on the center and the hens cloaca is moving like absorbing it. Will that fertilized the egg?

Have you tried hatching eggs from this hen?

A rooster provides a lot more sperm than is really needed, so if even some gets inside the hen, some of the time, that might be enough for her to lay fertile eggs.

Personally, I would try incubating some of her eggs before bothering with artificial insemination (unless you already tried incubating some and they were infertile.)

 

[SnackMeat]

Yeah I do agreed that even the tiniest amount is necessary so she probably already has fertilized eggs I would save eggs from 25 hours onward and start incubating them. You should know by the fifth day at the latest, assuming your incubator is holding the correct temp. I have even sometimes seen that eggs are fertilized by 48 hours in incubator but I always wondered if the early showers maybe spent a day under a hen and started the process or not.

 

[Tontstee]

Yeah I do agreed that even the tiniest amount is necessary so she probably already has fertilized eggs I would save eggs from 25 hours onward and start incubating them. You should know by the fifth day at the latest, assuming your incubator is holding the correct temp. I have even sometimes seen that eggs are fertilized by 48 hours in incubator but I always wondered if the early showers maybe spent a day under a hen and started the process or not.

every 3 or 4 hours i put the rooster with her and he will catch and mate right after i drop him in the cage of the hen. And i will remove the rooster after that.

But while watching them mating i can see the sperm of the male dropping from the ground or sometimes its on the surface only of the anus that why i push the sperm inside the anus and the hens anus is moving like its chewing or absorbing it.

Im just wondering how many egg can a rooster fertilized in one mating??

 

[Tontstee]

Have you tried hatching eggs from this hen?

A rooster provides a lot more sperm than is really needed, so if even some gets inside the hen, some of the time, that might be enough for her to lay fertile eggs.

Personally, I would try incubating some of her eggs before bothering with artificial insemination (unless you already tried incubating some and they were infertile.)

I have two eggs right now from her but i think a different rooster had been mate with her from the free range area. Thats why i didnt put it on the incubator.

Just wondering how many egg can a rooster fertilized in one mating?

 

[SnackMeat]

I believe a hen can be considered fertilized for 1-3 weeks, with 1-2 weeks being considered a safe bet. Now, one mating isn't exactly ideal but she should be fertilized. I have seen one person report having a successful hatch from an egg laid four weeks after fertilization but that is an extreme outlier, from what I have read.


As far as the previous rooster, you want to have your hen away for three weeks from any other roosters, or, not incubate any eggs until three weeks after she has started being with the new rooster.

That's only if you really care or it wouldn't be immediately obvious (say you're trying to sell a purebred Ayam cemani and she mated with a Columbian brahma-- those chicks should be immediately obvious. But by then you have chicks you didn't want. So best to wait if you want to be sure.)


So three weeks from old rooster, and then one mating with new rooster then any eggs 25 hours onward (though could be as long as 72 hours) should be fertilized.

I couldn't tell you how many eggs but there is a lot of sperm so some/most probably goes "bad" before it can be used, because hens will only lay however many eggs they'll lay in one to two weeks. And sometimes it's hot or they're stressed and they won't lay.

Hope that helps.

 

[SnackMeat]

Also, I would stop trying to mate your hen until the three weeks have passed from the last time she was with the previous rooster. It sounds like you're not going to incubate those eggs anyway so you're likely stressing her out.

 

[NatJ]

I have two eggs right now from her but i think a different rooster had been mate with her from the free range area. Thats why i didnt put it on the incubator.

Just wondering how many egg can a rooster fertilized in one mating?

The hen's body can store sperm, and the limit is on how long the sperm stays alive, not how many individual sperm cells were present.

If a hen has been mating with a rooster, and then she is kept away from him, she will usually lay fertile eggs for at least a week, sometimes up to three weeks, in rare cases longer than that. It seems to depend on the individual hen or rooster (some roosters have sperm that lives longer than others, some hens may retain it better than others, I don't think the details have been studied very carefully.)

As a general rule of thumb, if the rooster mates with the hen at least once a week, she should lay fertile eggs all the time.

every 3 or 4 hours i put the rooster with her and he will catch and mate right after i drop him in the cage of the hen. And i will remove the rooster after that.

That sounds like a lot more often than you need to do.

Maybe each time you collect an egg, put the rooster in until he mates with the hen, and then take him out again. That would be once every day or two, and probably more than you need, but a lot less than you are currently doing. I've read that mating does work better right after she lays an egg (no hard shell blocking the path for sperm to go up inside her.)