Rooster not eating or acting right......comb is starting ti change color on the tips.

[lagriega]

Update for today.....Rooster inside the house is on last day of meds..... I let him out in the bathroom supervised today because it was too cold outside and he so wanted out of his cage and needed exersize.....He walked around and flew around flapped his wings and all that good stuff.......BUT He was breathing as if he had asthma and had his mouth just a tiny bit open.... after this exersionI am not sure if this ws because he was so excited to be out for so long and flying around or because of illness. This only happens opon exersize

The 4 outside birds are doing ok.....but there was still some blood in the poop. It seems to be getting less from day to day. There was no more peach color droppings....Looks like that has stopped, only the blood. I did not get photo of the droppings but I did look at them good today and did not see any worms.
Concerned about breathing of rooster & blood in outside poop!

 

[lagriega]

Rooster still in house and still sneezes once in a while and has nasel stuffeness. His appitite is not as good as it was.....even when I coax him to eat....He eats but not great. I did worm him that is all done. Should I put him out in the chicken house with these symptoms on Sunday when our weather is going to be nice for about 3 days in a row? Do I need to treat him with any other meds because of still having symptoms? He is very frisky and looks great. Please let me know what I should do!

Thank You,
Diane

 

[Michael Apple]

Rooster still in house and still sneezes once in a while and has nasel stuffeness. His appitite is not as good as it was.....even when I coax him to eat....He eats but not great. I did worm him that is all done. Should I put him out in the chicken house with these symptoms on Sunday when our weather is going to be nice for about 3 days in a row? Do I need to treat him with any other meds because of still having symptoms? He is very frisky and looks great. Please let me know what I should do!

Thank You,
Diane

I would be hesitant with the flock overcoming intestinal problems and the rooster still showing respiratory problems. Sometimes eating less is a sign of the onset of moult. Does the rooster appear to be losing any feathers with new follicles coming in?

Many would recommend culling at the first sign of respiratory distress. That is your decision. The only treatment received for that was tetracycline, which is not as effective in treating respiratory problems as other treatments. Tylan and Denagard are a few which are more effective. Quicker response happens with injectibles. Tylan 50 is given .5 cc under the skin on the back of the neck. If the bird is 5+ lbs, an additional .5 cc should be given in the breast muscle. Use a 25 gauge needle on a 1 cc syringe. This is done once a day for 5 days.

Denagard is more expensive, and is given in water. Water dispersibles just don't seem to work as well in cold weather when birds drink less. It has been a long time since I dealt with respiratory problems and may be missing something more up to date. The other alternative would be to have an avian vet examine him. I'll pick a few minds and come back.

 

[lagriega]

I will wait for you to come back with other info....
I know I can not cull at this time .....put too much time & Love into this and he acts very healthy other than the nasel stuffy sound when he eats and his not eating as well ..... Perhaps if he gets real sick again then I will thinkl about it. I only have the 5 birds and the others also have some sneezing and my gut feeling is that they were the carriers....I do not feel comfortable with the injections but I am giving it some thought........I am not experienced enough....I am afraid I would hit something I should not.
He is not losing feathers now but he was back Sept 13th and for some weeks after when I found him and the follicles were coming in. Can the Tylan be given by mouth? Just in mouth not mixed with water? I had the link you gave me for the denagard before but when I click on it now it is not there.
Still trying to find a vet that will treat chickens in our area......no luck so far.

 

[seminolewind]

I will wait for you to come back with other info....
I know I can not cull at this time .....put too much time & Love into this and he acts very healthy other than the nasel stuffy sound when he eats and his not eating as well ..... Perhaps if he gets real sick again then I will thinkl about it. I only have the 5 birds and the others also have some sneezing and my gut feeling is that they were the carriers....I do not feel comfortable with the injections but I am giving it some thought........I am not experienced enough....I am afraid I would hit something I should not.
He is not losing feathers now but he was back Sept 13th and for some weeks after when I found him and the follicles were coming in. Can the Tylan be given by mouth? Just in mouth not mixed with water? I had the link you gave me for the denagard before but when I click on it now it is not there.
Still trying to find a vet that will treat chickens in our area......no luck so far.

I think you are doing a really good job! Are they sneezing and have snot on their nostrils? Or just sneezing?

Oxine is great IF you activate it with citric acid. In fact it's called Oxine once it's activated. Unactivated it does very little. I wash out everything with bleach water and a brush. I disinfect by using Virkon. A tub of Virkon will last years . Oxine is real expensive and needs to be activated. As for worms, I've read some stuff about sprinkling salt on the ground to kill worms. I don't know if that's true.

 

[Michael Apple]

I will wait for you to come back with other info....
I know I can not cull at this time .....put too much time & Love into this and he acts very healthy other than the nasel stuffy sound when he eats and his not eating as well ..... Perhaps if he gets real sick again then I will thinkl about it. I only have the 5 birds and the others also have some sneezing and my gut feeling is that they were the carriers....I do not feel comfortable with the injections but I am giving it some thought........I am not experienced enough....I am afraid I would hit something I should not.
He is not losing feathers now but he was back Sept 13th and for some weeks after when I found him and the follicles were coming in. Can the Tylan be given by mouth? Just in mouth not mixed with water? I had the link you gave me for the denagard before but when I click on it now it is not there.
Still trying to find a vet that will treat chickens in our area......no luck so far.

When you consider the effectiveness of injectibles compared to water solubles, it is a difference of relieving symptoms so that secondary infections don't occur. Like I mentioned, water solubles are valuable, but in cold weather birds drink less and may not get required amount. The trick is immobilizing the bird comfortably and knowing the anatomy of the bird. Subcutaneous injections are easier to begin with. I don't recommend injectibles to be used orally. That is why they are injectibles. When giving liquids orally, you have to be careful not to aspirate the bird. Here is a thread that covers the subject in addition to avoiding aspiration:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/...-for-visuals-very-detailed-post#post_11652991

Seminole reminded me about Oxine, which I think I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread. I use it all the time for cleaning out drinkers and troughs. I also use it in my coop cleaning process 4 times a year. It is activated with citric acid when I use it for disinfecting, but not if I am using it to mist birds or use in waterers. Here's an article about treating respiratory fungal infections with Oxine AH:
http://poultryone.com/articles/respiratory-html
here is the author's site, and have seen his articles in other publications: http://www.shagbarkbantams.com/index.htm

 

[casportpony]

In a previous post I asked if poop pictures could be posted, but haven't seen any yet? Has this rooster been dewormed with Safeguard or Valbazen? If so, how much did he get? As for antibiotics, a very good inexpensive one to try is Baytril (enrofloxacin). IMO, the powders one can get at feed stores are a waste of money.

Baytril sources:

• http://www.mexi-cali.net/eng/index/item/24/29/enfloxil-25-ml-same-as-baytril
• http://www.allbirdproducts.com/newproductpages/baytril.html
• http://www.ladygouldianfinch.com/product_baytril.php

Note that injectable Baytril (enrofloxacin) can be given orally. Read this before using Baytril:

• https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/medicine-chart/baytril-for-birds

The amount of Baytril I use is 0.09ml per pound for five days.

-Kathy

 

[lagriega]

casportpony....Sorry it took me so long to get poop pictures....I lent my camera to my Brother and just got it back....so here they are.
These are from last nights droppings....The actual color looks off in photo from actual poop.Anything in photo that shows red is actual carmel color....there was no blood today today
This poop is from the 4 outside birds that were wormed with Strike III over 5 days and I hand fed them the pelletts so I know that each bird got its full dose. I am not seeing the peach color or blood in the poop for the last few days since they have been given the probiotic. Rooster was wormed with Strike III the same way but I did not get photos of his poop yet.

 

[lagriega]

casportpony....Thank you for the poop 101.....I did not know that there were the different kinds till you asked for cecal poop picture LOL. I guess what I thought was diareah was Cecal poo! But I do know that the peach color & blood that I saw before and during the worming and a bit after was not normal. I will take a photo if I see that again.

 

[ochochicas]

I , too, think you are doing a good job taking care of the rooster. If you have not treated them with corid I would try that next in the water. I also think diet change and stress can cause irregular poop, as well as antibiotics.

Not to hijack your thread, but can any of you tell me how long I should give a sick bird tylan injections? Tomorrow will be day 5 of the Tylan. He is starting to show improvement, but is still not well. Do I continue giving tylan or stop after 5 days. He is getting 1.6 cc injection of Tylan 50 twice a day. It is getting harder to do since he's feeling better and doesn't like getting poked anymore.