Safeguard/fenbendazole for gapeworm?

[casportpony]

For gapeworm I have to give them 0.75 ML of Safeguard for 5 days and that's it? They're probably around 3 pounds.

It would be best if you could weigh them and dose them as accurately as possible. But yes, the treatment is five consecutive days.

Since gapeworms are rare in chickens, if you have more than one that is sick, it's probably a respiratory infectiontion, not gapeworms.

 

[BigBirdy]

It would be best if you could weigh them and dose them as accurately as possible. But yes, the treatment is five consecutive days.

Since gapeworms are rare in chickens, if you have more than one that is sick, it's probably a respiratory infectiontion, not gapeworms.

Thank you. Respiratory diseases like mycoplasma can only have its symptoms treated, but it flares up again. My hens were having these symptoms for years, one yawns and the other keeps shaking her head. If it's mycoplasma should I just wait for the symptoms to settle down or will they have them forever? I heard if I swab the top of their inner beaks and look for small red worms on the q-tip I'll know if it's gapeworms.

 

[casportpony]

Thank you. Respiratory diseases like mycoplasma can only have its symptoms treated, but it flares up again. My hens were having these symptoms for years, one yawns and the other keeps shaking her head. If it's mycoplasma should I just wait for the symptoms to settle down or will they have them forever? I heard if I swab the top of their inner beaks and look for small red worms on the q-tip I'll know if it's gapeworms.

Gapes live in the trachea, so swabbing the inside of the mouth won't tell you anything,and I would not suggest swabbing the inside of the trachea. Have you ever tried antibiotics?

 

[BigBirdy]

Gapes live in the trachea, so swabbing the inside of the mouth won't tell you anything,and I would not suggest swabbing the inside of the trachea. Have you ever tried antibiotics?

Thanks, I won't swab them. I never gave them antibiotics before, should I start with the one for mycoplasma, Denegard, and see how it goes?

 

[BigBirdy]

Gapes live in the trachea, so swabbing the inside of the mouth won't tell you anything,and I would not suggest swabbing the inside of the trachea. Have you ever tried antibiotics?

But they never showed these symptoms. The one that shakes her head also has bubbles in her eyes sometimes.

 

[Miss Lydia]

@casportpony

 

[casportpony]

They started Dying and looked sick. Had a crust over their eyes. They STINK so bad you can smell them 20 feet away from the pen. Their pen has never had a smell. Thick Thick Yellow stuff running out of their mouth and nose.

Not all respiratory diseases are like this, some are very subtle.

 

[h2oratt]

I give fenbendazole to my dogs,ducks and chickens. I put fenbendazole .6 mil for 25 lbs in plain yogurt for my 10 chickens(they all eat out of the same dish, and .6 ml for 25 lbs for my 4 muscovy ducks. I usually dose for 5 days for the chickens and 3 days dosing for the ducks.
I put the fenbenzadole in wet dog food according to their weight I measure separately for each of the dog dishes. Safeguard has a measurement chart for dosage on the bottle.

Works very well. I eat the eggs during this period with some bromelain (pineapple derivative) because it kills parasites. I feel fine and so do my critters.

Yogurt is good for everything...fowl and water fowl can have plain yogurt without sugar because it boosts there immune system as well as makes a healthy layer. Shells are harder too.

THe dosage on bottle is for goats not dogs.

 

[BirdsLivesMatter]

Hi there I'm extremely new here so I hope I'm not breaking any rules by asking my own question on someone else's, but it pertains to the same matter so I hope its okay. I apologize in advance if its not.

My question is in regards to using fenbendazole in pheasants. I believe 1 of my 2 has gapeworms but I'm not positive. He's showing all of the symptoms but what's scary to me is the fact that when we got him he already had a completely closed nasal area. We got 2 males who are good pals always been together they're entire life. One is a golden the other is a red golden. The red golden is the one that is ill. We have no experience with these types of birds whatsoever. Closest thing was when my boyfriend showed up with some chickens a few years back who got out&escaped within a week of having them and have since bred a few new generations that have become the wild neighborhood chickens. Basically our knowledge &experience is non existent. Its my boyfriend who just keeps showing up with these creatures that were not prepared/equipped to care for but once theyre here for just a day i always become attached so I'm REALLY trying. Of course ALL of the actual "caring" for, comes from solely me. He just enjoys looking at them once in awhile. We've only had these 2 for about 3 weeks now. Have no idea on age or any of the other important info you're supposed to ask when buying any sort of animal. My boyfriend neglects to think of those things, or anything whatsoever. He just sees it, he likes it at that moment, so he buys it&I'm left caring for it. Anyways, you can see straight through the yellow ones nose(or is it a nare, like my cockatiels),its totally clear. The red golden came to us with it COMPLETELY impacted with idk what. I can see a single seed mixed in with the hardened gunk in the left side..so he's got this impacted nose but was fine up until 4-5 days ago when I noticed him making this sound that sounds very similar to us when were congested. Predominantly only at night at first. The last 2 days tho, its been during the day as well but really really bad at night time&its breaking my heart..idk what to do or where to start. He does the stretching out of the neck while shaking his head that reminds me of what my cockatiels do when they're adjusting they're crop except its accompanied with a horrible sound..idk if its gasping or coughing but its def congested sounding. So after doing hours of researching i cane across info on gape worms and that it can be treated with fenbendazole so I went out and bought the same dewormer I use on my dogs cuz I know thats the ingredient. However I pulled a move like my bf and didn't really read thoroughly I just jumped up ran out the door to buy it,got back and realized I have no idea how much to give lol. I also neglected to pay attn to the fact that everyone was talking about a fenbendazole liquid and what I got/use is a powder. I was planning on doing what I've always done with every litter of puppies which is buy the stuff marketed for the largest breed dog then just weigh them and their dose accordingly. But I don't know what the recommended dose is for a pheasant...in powder form. Someone pls help me! I don't want him to die I've literally been sitting outside all damn night long even tho it's super cold (to me anyway)just to make sure he's okay. He took to me right from the beginning. He's so gentle, curious,&loving. I can't lose him. Pls advise me the dosage AND what to do about his impacted nose. Thats going to expedite his demise if it is gape worms so pls im begging you for help!! So does his best buddy! I'll attach a video or pics if needed
Oh and the product I'm using is safeguard 4 for dogs 40lb&larger.(like I said,I weigh animal first and then weigh medication accordingly. Much more cost effective this way especially since it needs to be given for several days.

 

[PoultryPedia]

The Committee for Medicinal Products for Veterinary Use assessment report for Panacur AquaSol offers very detailed info on use of fenbendazole for poultry.

From info on page 12, it looks like the dose for treating large roundworms or cecal worms should be
1 mg of fenbendazole per kg of bird's body weight, given for 5 days
[which is the same as 0.454 mg of fenbendazole per pound of bird's body weight].
--Side note: 3 kg (6.6 lbs) can be used as a very general weight for a backyard breed hen.

This is also the dose rate specified on the product label itself for Safe-guard Aquasol dewormer for chickens. [Note: Horses are normally dosed at 5 mg of fenbendazole per 1 kg of horse's body weight.]

Safe-guard 10% liquid goat dewormer
has 100 mg of fenbendazole per 1 mL of liquid. (The bottle contains 125 mL total of liquid.] If being precise, you would give 0.01 mL of liquid for each kg of bird's weight each day.

Safe-guard and Panacur 10% paste horse dewormers
each have 100 mg of fenbendazole per 1 gram of paste and the tube contains a 25 grams total of paste. If being precise, for each kg of your bird's weight you would give 1% of 1/25th of the contents of the tube each day.

Safe-guard Aquasol liquid dewormer (for chickens and pigs)
has 200 mg of fenbendazole per 1 mL of liquid. If being precise, you would give 0.005 mL of liquid for each kg of bird's weight each day.

Bottom line:
You only need a TINY bit for deworming a single chicken.

Fenbendazole has a wide margin of safety, however, so some overdosing is not as risky as with many other medications.
My bird's don't mind eating fenbendazole. Based on my experience and others', I'm thinking it is commonly safe to give a tiny pea-sized amount on a very small piece of bread to each chicken, and that amount is plenty to be effective if you give for 5 days.

[Note: To treat GAPEWORMS or broad-headed tapeworms, one study suggests the dose should be 15 to 20 mg fenbendazole per kg of bird's body weight for 3 consecutive days. This would be up to 0.6 mL per day for an average backyard hen.]

I will soon also get this updated on the Chicken Medicine Chart but wanted to get it posted here.