Salmon duckwing

[miss heny]

Okay, my two braincells are trying to comprehend the difference between Silver Duckwing, Gold duckwing, and Salmon duckwing. Inquiring for a future breeding project and wanting to know what methods I could potentially do to expand bloodlines of a breed without giving myself extra pain of meddling the colours.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Salmon duckwing? Do you have a picture of the variety with that name?

 

[miss heny]

Salmon duckwing? Do you have a picture of the variety with that name?

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Looks like that’s just gold or possibly golden duckwing.

Salmon duckwing doesn’t exist (at least genetically, it may be a variety name that doesn’t match the genetics). Salmon is based on wheaten while duckwing is on duckwing.

Silver duckwing is duckwing with the silver gene, while gold duckwing has the gold gene. However, there may be other small differences between them as well, such as differing levels of autosomal red or mahogany. Silver crossed to gold creates golden duckwing roosters (the coloration is not possible in hens), which are gold/silver splits and don’t breed true. Silver x gold crosses either result in silver or gold hens depending on which parent is silver and which is gold.

 

[miss heny]

Looks like that’s just gold or possibly golden duckwing.View attachment 3416896

Salmon duckwing doesn’t exist (at least genetically, it may be a variety name that doesn’t match the genetics). Salmon is based on wheaten while duckwing is on duckwing.

Silver duckwing is duckwing with the silver gene, while gold duckwing has the gold gene. However, there may be other small differences between them as well, such as differing levels of autosomal red or mahogany. Silver crossed to gold creates golden duckwing roosters (the coloration is not possible in hens), which are gold/silver splits and don’t breed true. Silver x gold crosses either result in silver or gold hens depending on which parent is silver and which is gold.

Aaah alright. Thank you for clearing that up honestly my brain was hurting with lack of information

So I would be better off not crossing it sounds like or if I do probably silver roo over gold hens?

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Time out, please, ignorant person here! when you say for example, uuuh, RIR x Dominique, which is the sire and which is the hen? Thank you.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Aaah alright. Thank you for clearing that up honestly my brain was hurting with lack of information

So I would be better off not crossing it sounds like or if I do probably silver roo over gold hens?

Depends on how genetically close the silvers and golds are to each other. In some breeds, the silvers have no autosomal red (a good example of this would be silver leghorns) and in some the silvers have a lot (like silver cubalayas). And some gold duckwings have a lot of autosomal red/mahogany (welsummers) and others have less (gold phoenixes).

 

[BigBlueHen53]

It's usually male before female or male over female. It's a chauvinistic system.

And is that how you would read or say it? RIR over Dominique?

I don't think of it as sexist, it's just the standard way it's been done for, well, forever. So I'm trying to educate myself to understand it.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

Depends on how genetically close the silvers and golds are to each other. In some breeds, the silvers have no autosomal red (a good example of this would be silver leghorns) and in some the silvers have a lot (like silver cubalayas). And some gold duckwings have a lot of autosomal red (welsummers) and others have less (gold phoenixes).

The mind of BYC is an amazing thing...

 

[miss heny]

Depends on how genetically close the silvers and golds are to each other. In some breeds, the silvers have no autosomal red (a good example of this would be silver leghorns) and in some the silvers have a lot (like silver cubalayas). And some gold duckwings have a lot of autosomal red (welsummers) and others have less (gold phoenixes).

So should probably run a few test breedings gotcha I don't really known the base genes for gold kraienkoppe and silver. Bonus mystery ingredients is I want to use some European Kraienkoppe to mix with the American stock which is well known to have deviations.