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Sydney65

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When your hubby asks what you want for Christmas, you ask for a conure, & he gifts you SG chicks. šŸ¤”
I've never had chickens, only guinea fowl. -yes, I know they can't live together, but he didn't.😁
For now, they're in the brooder I use for my goon babies, which is a huge clear tote that I don't think they even make anymore (the size). It's served as a brooder, a hospital, & one singleton hatched in November lived in it until the following spring when she was ready to move to the coop.
There are 2 chicks, and from what I read, they're probably going to be bigger than my guineas who've been inside? I have no idea how old they are, he bought from RK. one has tiny tail feathers, both tiny wing feathers,otherwise still fluffy. Nor am I certain abt sexes..no white spot on head, both have a white feather in their wing, one has black legs, one has 1/2 black, 1/2 yellow, & I've noted comments in the site abt false breeding/advertising so chicks aren't true SG. Then someone mentioned black sex link as opposed to blue sex link, and that totally confounded me. One is much darker with a black rear, where as the other is bluish gray. I know, pictures-I'll get there, but they aren't cooperative & I nearly conked one trying to hold them in one hand & the phone in the other.
I see they don't need as much heat for as long as guineas, he got them nutrena organic crumbles & I picked up chick grit & corid today (to have on hand). When can they have fresh food (fruit, seed, etc.)? From what I read, socialization is important, so they're secure in the living room where we all are, including dogs (2 dogs are old hands at this, will be good training for the puppy to grow up with them). Very snuggly little birds.
The precaution of restocking the corid came after SEEING before reading something about shedding intestinal lining? Can't say that's something I've noticed with keets. Thought for sure I'd wake up to 2 dead chicks, but I cleaned them up, notice their bums were clean and pink, so went back to reading-and they're still here, 2 days later.
Seems like my guinea keet training included the fact that they were far more fragile than chicks, so if anything, I may be over cautious with them, but lay it on me, what do I need to be aware of?
I'm assuming they aren't vaccinated, coming from HH. Is it too late to have that done, & will a vet do it, bc a vial is $250 and that seems wasteful. Or does it need to be done for BYC that will be living inside all winter & secluded to our yard w/no other chickens around?
Is there any kind of chart to help pinpoint their age? I know they ship at hatch, but no idea how long they stick around in the store.
 
Oh dear... chickens aren't parrots!

If the brooder you have worked for guinea fowl it should be fine sizewise for chicks. If they're from a hatchery via feed store they should be female, the point of getting sex linked chicks is so the stores can sell females to folks looking for them. Age-wise, photos will let us guess - from just the description they're maybe 1-2 weeks?

As far as food, I don't start giving them treats until they're a couple weeks old, and only in moderation at first to train them to be less fearful of my hands.

As far as Corid, good to have it on hand but unlikely you would have issues with it while the birds are indoors, and it does take a few weeks for coccidiosis to reproduce to the point that it would cause issue. Rather than medicate for it I deliberately expose the birds to soil from outdoors (well I brood outdoors), so they will pick up smaller amounts of whatever strain(s) of coccidiosis might be in the environment and adjust for it over time.

Many vaccinations need to be given right after birth and are not efficient for small groups as they're sold in doses of hundreds. Is there a specific disease you're worried about that you wanted to vaccinate for?
 
No, they are a far cry from parrots, but they're cute little buggers.😊 They aren't afraid of me or my hands. After checking every possible thing that could be causing them to get louder & louder this evening, I learned that it was "cuddle time," and as soon as they each found "their spot" up against me, they flopped like wet noodles, sound asleep.
The diff between guinea and chickens - if you buy guinea from a feed store, you can bank on an outbreak of coccidiosis. I've read in this forum of using sod to innoculate against coccidia. A great idea, given that the singleton I mentioned developed coccidiosis shortly after she moved outside. Surprising, as she had started of free ranging during the day and coming back in the evening (yes, she even pecked at the door to come in.)
The guinea run is sand, should I use it or actual sod? Now, or closer to time they move out, and how much?
I am not finding any info on specific diseases prevalent in my area, just that everything is a concern nationwide. AI has happened 2 hrs away in any direction where a turkey farm & wildlife preservation are in close proximation, but no closer. All that to say that if I'm worried about something, it's that I don't have enough info to know what to worry about? 1st & foremost would be the safety of my grans, but since my guinea aren't vaxed for anything, I'm not sure that claim is valid. Honestly, I was shocked when the vet recently asked if they were vaccinated & said they should be. (A bit late now).
Will try to get photos tomorrow.
 
I've read in this forum of using sod to innoculate against coccidia. A great idea, given that the singleton I mentioned developed coccidiosis shortly after she moved outside. Surprising, as she had started of free ranging during the day and coming back in the evening (yes, she even pecked at the door to come in.)
The guinea run is sand, should I use it or actual sod? Now, or closer to time they move out, and how much?
Use whatever substrate is in the area you plan to have the chicks live in (whether it's a run or just part of your yard if you free range) and provide it in a small shallow tray, like a pie tin. They'll play with it and probably eat some.

Earlier is best. I immediately put chicks outdoors as soon as I get them (so 2-3 days old usually) to begin the process. Since you have Corid on hand you'll be ready to address any issues if they arise.
All that to say that if I'm worried about something, it's that I don't have enough info to know what to worry about? 1st & foremost would be the safety of my grans, but since my guinea aren't vaxed for anything, I'm not sure that claim is valid. Honestly, I was shocked when the vet recently asked if they were vaccinated & said they should be.
Most hatchery chicks aren't vaccinated for anything unless the store specifically orders them that way (i.e. mine are all vaccinated for Marek's because the local stores order them that way). A lot of folks on here choose to not vaccinate chicks, and I'm sure there's an equal number that choose to have certain vaccines done. I myself wouldn't opt to pay for any since I haven't seen need for it.
 
Use whatever substrate is in the area you plan to have the chicks live in (whether it's a run or just part of your yard if you free range) and provide it in a small shallow tray, like a pie tin. They'll play with it and probably eat some.

Earlier is best. I immediately put chicks outdoors as soon as I get them (so 2-3 days old usually) to begin the process. Since you have Corid on hand you'll be ready to address any issues if they arise.

Most hatchery chicks aren't vaccinated for anything unless the store specifically orders them that way (i.e. mine are all vaccinated for Marek's because the local stores order them that way). A lot of folks on here choose to not vaccinate chicks, and I'm sure there's an equal number that choose to have certain vaccines done. I myself wouldn't opt to pay for any since I haven't seen need for it.
Thank you for your help 🄰
 
Until I got some chicks directly from a hatchery during a special in-person event, none of my birds were vaccinated. At the event, vaccines were given for free if you asked for them. I figured, why not? But honestly, I don't agree with your vet about the necessity to vaccinate. The farm stores here certainly don't vaccinate and I've had dozens of store chickens live long, healthy lives without them.

I keep Corid on hand but have rarely had to use it. It's part of my critter first aid kit.

In my experience, brooding chicks indoors and letting them socialize with people and pets is great. But, don't count on them being "cuddly" for their entire lives. Most of mine went through the adolescent "don't touch me phase," even though they had climbed all over me when they were little. Some never came out of their standoffish behavior; others still want to land on my shoulder.

I think you will be a great chicken parent because you are asking questions and doing your best to prepare your chicks for a safe, successful life. I am living proof that you can make numerous mistakes and still have thriving chicks that will live to adulthood.

Best wishes with your new babies!
 
Until I got some chicks directly from a hatchery during a special in-person event, none of my birds were vaccinated. At the event, vaccines were given for free if you asked for them. I figured, why not? But honestly, I don't agree with your vet about the necessity to vaccinate. The farm stores here certainly don't vaccinate and I've had dozens of store chickens live long, healthy lives without them.

I keep Corid on hand but have rarely had to use it. It's part of my critter first aid kit.

In my experience, brooding chicks indoors and letting them socialize with people and pets is great. But, don't count on them being "cuddly" for their entire lives. Most of mine went through the adolescent "don't touch me phase," even though they had climbed all over me when they were little. Some never came out of their standoffish behavior; others still want to land on my shoulder.

I think you will be a great chicken parent because you are asking questions and doing your best to prepare your chicks for a safe, successful life. I am living proof that you can make numerous mistakes and still have thriving chicks that will live to adulthood.

Best wishes with your new babies!
Thank you, that's so nice of you to say! Multiple batches of guinea, 21 currently, I've made plenty of mistakes & even more you don't know what you don't know until you find out you don't know it & come running to this forum in a panic.
I do understand what you're saying abt individual temperment. Some of the goons keep their distance & treat the hand as the angel of death,some stay right with me, eat from the hand and sleep in my lap. But I've been under the impression that chickens are more domesticated/docile than guinea. Pictures coming-
 
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