okay, a question for those of you out there with goats...is there a special 'trick' to giving them shots? I have given sub-Q shots plenty of times before to my dogs, cats, and even my chickens and it is usually a breeze. This is the first time I've ever had to give shots to a goat and I can't help but feel like I must be doing something wrong because every time I give the shot they scream, bellow, and holler like I am KILLING them. Seriously, by the way they act, it's like I am trying to skin them alive. I'm giving them LA200, and the info I found said to give it sub-Q over the ribs. So I have the hubby hold the goats, then I grab a little bunch of fur over the ribs and pull to expose the skin and cause it to tent up a little. Then I stick in the needle until it goes through the skin and slowly inject the meds. Same thing I would do to give a vaccine to one of my dogs, only with them I do it between the shoulder blades. The only difference I've noticed is that goat hide is WAY tougher than dog or chicken skin. I would swear I'm doing it right, but is it supposed to hurt them that much? And is it really that painful, or do goats just put up more fuss than usual? Oh, and the needles I am using are 20 gauge and I'm using a fresh needle each time. Seems like they would be nice and sharp, but the goats react like I'm sticking them with a rusty roofing nail.