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I already have Tylan 50 injectable and have administered it. I also have Tylan 100 powder. So, let me make sure I have this right, after reading a lot on the subject. Because I am very very intelligent.

My birds most likely had gotten a bad case of Infectious Bronchitis....which is ok, because it happens a lot. However, since I didn't give them antibiotics for this at the time they had it, and I waited too long....some of my birds are now going through a secondary infection which is most likely CRD. So, if I cull the one bird with the secondary infection, having treated the IB with Tylan....I will be OK, and I can still sell eggs? Am I correct on this?
Your birds can't get IB and then have it turn into MG/CRD--they are 2 different diseases--or they could have had another respiratory disease. Most birds that get secondary infections with IB, usually develop pneumonia or get e.coli that can spread all over the body. It is hard to culture IB unless you do it within the first week of symptoms. With MG it can come back whenever they are stressed, such as a cold spell or other stresses. Treating with antibiotics will help your birds to live and lay eggs for you, but will not cure them. Once MG/CRD is in your flock, they will all be carriers. And all eggs can have MG--they are fine to eat but not to sell for hatching. Here are 2 links with good information on MG:
http://umaine.edu/livestock/poultry/mycoplasma-gallisepticum-faq/
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps034
 
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"MG is a slow spreading infection, and often infected birds remain healthy without showing any overt signs of disease. Once other complicating factors — such as environmental stressors (elevated heat, ammonia levels, dust, or cold drafts), nutritional deficiencies, other infections (such as infectious bronchitis or laryngotracheitis virus) — lower immunity of the flock, MG may flare up as overt disease.
MG adversely affects fertility, hatchability, and survival of baby chicks."

These are two quotes from the first website you gave me. The infection I had was not slow spreading by any means, nor did it affect fertility or egg laying. All birds continued to lay as normal, while coughing and every egg I produced went into the incubator. They still are going in. I currently have 150 eggs in the incubator and I keep that many in there all the time. As they hatch, I fill it back up, and every single bird got sick, and there were absolutely no effects on my hatching. I'm still at 98%. Also, if the disease was slow spreading, not so many birds would have gotten sick and well at the same time. None of these birds came from the same place! Not even a handful of them lived together before I got them. I almost got every bird from a different place. I have 70 mature or almost mature birds. I have a bunch of chicks that never once got sick. All 70 of the older birds haven't been together very long. I have never had chickens before in my life. I am familiar with birds, however, I grew up with hundreds of homing pigeons. So, I am very familiar with bird care and health. So, every one of the 70 birds was aquired over the last 3 months. A slow spreading disease would have only affected about 10 of them. Not all 70 at once.

Is there a chance I could have gotten the wet version of avian diptheria? Not sure if I spelled that right? Please don't walk away from me now. I'm learning a lot through this conversation. And having so many birds, neatly organized, on my 1 acre property; something tells me I'm gonna need this knowledge a lot.
 
It would seem that you had an environmental stressor. The carriers spread it around unseen or with very little symptoms over a period of time (over the last few months) to the other birds. When the stressor (cold) arrives the birds show the symptoms. They can "catch" it slowly, when stressed it doesn't mean that most (or all) wont show it. If they were mine I'd test them. Been there, done that. Now I know I have an MG free flock as I've started over, tested for it and vaccinate.
 
I use mg-bac, its an injection. http://www.drugs.com/vet/mg-bac.html
I recommend you test your flock though so you know you're starting with MG free birds. From there you can vaccinate the adults and chicks alike. I vaccinated my breeders but when hatching in the spring don't plan on vaccinating chicks I'll be selling. Some don't believe in vaccination, to each their own.
 
I use mg-bac, its an injection. http://www.drugs.com/vet/mg-bac.html
I recommend you test your flock though so you know you're starting with MG free birds. From there you can vaccinate the adults and chicks alike. I vaccinated my breeders but when hatching in the spring don't plan on vaccinating chicks I'll be selling. Some don't believe in vaccination, to each their own.

I searched that site for that drug. Is there another name for it?
 
I use mg-bac, its an injection. http://www.drugs.com/vet/mg-bac.html
I recommend you test your flock though so you know you're starting with MG free birds. From there you can vaccinate the adults and chicks alike. I vaccinated my breeders but when hatching in the spring don't plan on vaccinating chicks I'll be selling. Some don't believe in vaccination, to each their own.

You need a vet license to buy that.
 
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