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[kathyinmo]

I still miss having the Jersey Giants!

 

[seminolewind]

Kathy, how do they differ from other breeds you've had? Even tho I have nice SLW's, BR's and SS, etc, which are super nice and tame, I still find myself loving the Jerseys. Maybe it's the way they run across the yard! No one has that fat girl run like they do, LOL

 

[speckledhen]

Quote: Here's a caution for you on that, Karen. The State Vet told us not to do that. He said folks do that, thinking it's safer, but they hit a nerve and actually end up crippling the bird.


I find myself not wanting the super large birds anymore, mainly due to leg issues. Suede keeps spraining his leg. Meg has chronic bumblefoot and Amanda, my huge BR hen, has some hip issue. I think I may start thinking toward letting them slip away one by one until I have enough for just the one coop, the one built as a bantam coop, where the coop part is 8x8 like our original coop was before the addition. Property taxes have doubled, health insurance is going up next time, etc, etc, but our income isn't. I'm sick of it all right now. I can't see not having any chickens-they're too much a part of my life, but I can see going back to the "old days" of a smaller flock. Won't be getting any more dogs, either, not unless DH kicks the bucket and I need protection here.

 

[kathyinmo]

I find myself not wanting the super large birds anymore, mainly due to leg issues. Suede keeps spraining his leg. Meg has chronic bumblefoot and Amanda, my huge BR hen, has some hip issue. I think I may start thinking toward letting them slip away one by one until I have enough for just the one coop, the one built as a bantam coop, where the coop part is 8x8 like our original coop was before the addition. Property taxes have doubled, health insurance is going up next time, etc, etc, but our income isn't. I'm sick of it all right now. I can't see not having any chickens-they're too much a part of my life, but I can see going back to the "old days" of a smaller flock. Won't be getting any more dogs, either, not unless DH kicks the bucket and I need protection here.

I'm so sick of the economy, politics, and the government. I try not to even discuss it, because it just makes my blood pressure sky rocket. The government is so totally in control of every move we make anymore, I feel we have no privacy at all. We have no choices. Decisions are made by those idiots we pay outrageous taxes to support for the rest of their lives. Before ya know it, we will all be micro-chipped. Too much government is an understatement, in my opinion. Pathetic......

It aggravates me that I can not (legally) purchase a gallon of milk from the guy down the road. He milks his cow and I bring my container for it. Not legal. Stuff like this ticks me off.

How about these new marketing schemes..... 40 pounds of feed instead of 50, but same price. At the store today, I thought I bought 10 pounds of potatoes - no, it was 8 pounds.

Then, we have crap like THIS to look forward to, too.

 

[catdaddyfro]

Here's a caution for you on that, Karen. The State Vet told us not to do that. He said folks do that, thinking it's safer, but they hit a nerve and actually end up crippling the bird.


I find myself not wanting the super large birds anymore, mainly due to leg issues. Suede keeps spraining his leg. Meg has chronic bumblefoot and Amanda, my huge BR hen, has some hip issue. I think I may start thinking toward letting them slip away one by one until I have enough for just the one coop, the one built as a bantam coop, where the coop part is 8x8 like our original coop was before the addition. Property taxes have doubled, health insurance is going up next time, etc, etc, but our income isn't. I'm sick of it all right now. I can't see not having any chickens-they're too much a part of my life, but I can see going back to the "old days" of a smaller flock. Won't be getting any more dogs, either, not unless DH kicks the bucket and I need protection here.

Oh yes I have done this before it didnt permanantly mame her but it sure messed her walk up for a spell she eventually got over it .If you use the small/short needle as described and go into the thickest section of the breast you should surely not get too deep. Heck even if you're unsure only insert it into the flesh a little no further than half way.

 

[speckledhen]

Pretty darn disgusting, isn't it, Kathy? DH and I are going to become even more insular and separated than we already are, if we can even afford the taxes to stay in this ridiculous micro-managed state of ours. We may have to leave here, if we can even give the place away, but if not... Raise the walls, close the gate and man the towers at the Chicken Asylum. No one in and no one out. I guess I won't sell my eggs to anyone so mine don't leave the property unless the buyer signs a release...ah, but that would leave a paper trail, so guess I won't. I'm keeping them for my family-the chickens can eat 'em just fine. There are things happening quietly that astound and appall us on a daily basis in gov't. The rich get richer and we get the shaft. One reason this country is like it is now is that the people have lost the nerve and the will to do what they did in the first place to found it. It's a really wussy country, when you get right down to it. Revolution? Too lazy, scared and complacent for that. The U.S. exists in the first place because of civil disobedience.

 

[kathyinmo]

Is # 16 on this list HERE your relative, Cyn?

 

[speckledhen]

Oh, he's the black sheep of the family. We don't talk about him.

THIS is hysterical! Look at #14-16...the Food Consortium! Hamm, Trout and Bacon, LOL!

Quote:

As far as Animal ID goes, needless to say, we will not be banding our chickens and registering them in any way, shape or form. No matter what the FDA or USDA says, we have an unalienable right to feed our families and choose what to feed them.

 

[Lacy Blues]

Oh my gosh... I just read the whole ordeal with Dede and as I knew I would, I ended up being all choked up and teary-eyed while trying to read it to my daughter. Good job with the fox!

Then I read a few more posts about everybody having trouble with Mareks.

Here's something I have learned in regard to Mareks Disease.

Turkeys carry a milder form of it. If you have turkeys or someone you know has turkeys and you can get a few bags of litter from their coop, do it. It can save the lives of your birds.

Chickens can catch this milder form and you won't even realize they have it, its that mild. And it makes them immune to the chicken version of Mareks.

My first year breeding Andalusians, I lost over half of my hatch to Mareks. Then I got some turkey litter and haven't seen it since. If you know kids in 4H who are raising turkeys (they come from an NPIP source, generally) so it would be safe to do this. I only got it the one year so I think perhaps it is passed on in the immunity.

 

[kathyinmo]

Oh, he's the black sheep of the family. We don't talk about him.

THIS is hysterical! Look at #14-16...the Food Consortium! Hamm, Trout and Bacon, LOL!

Quote:

As far as Animal ID goes, needless to say, we will not be banding our chickens and registering them in any way, shape or form. No matter what the FDA or USDA says, we have an unalienable right to feed our families and choose what to feed them.

I'm gonna stick to beef (no Hamm, Trout, or Bacon) from now on.

Isn't that law ridiculous? I was reading what some other folks (that show) said about it....

**We lost the chance to make this simple, doable, agreeable with our needs and also lost the opportunity to get paid for it!

One of the dumbest things the "parent organizations" ever did- listening to the "by god the government isn't going to tell me . . . " crowd and not working to make the inevitable tolerable.

And get paid for it!

Now since there is only enough money in the government to force anyone other than the government to accomplish this task guess who they drop the bill in front of?

And don't think that this thing can be stopped. Changed somewhat yes, but stopped no. Money is appropriated, bureaucrats are in place, salaries to be preserved, holy missions to be completed and animal rights activists rubbing their hands and salivating in eager anticipation.

Then you also have companies that stand to profit from the whole mess promoting it. Hell . . . they are the only ones with a clear and admirable goal. I have some respect for that.

**A bunch of different rules are thrown up by the states we show in and travel through. I can ship a bird to Texas but I can't show there. Or to show in Maryland must be both PT and AI tested. My state does not offer AI testing for hobby flocks so I can't show proof of participation in my state's AI Clean Program to meet the Maryland requirements. To show in Illinois I must call and get a permit to legally transport birds into that state. I am sure there other rules I am forgetting about or have yet to run into. The individual States have the potential of becoming as big of barrier to hobby and exhibition poultry as the Feds.. And if we don't follow the rules the States will be the ones shutting down our shows or preventing you from showing.
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**If we're not careful. we're going to be taxed and litigated right out of existence. That sound you may hear in the background, if you listen carefully, is our Founding Fathers rolling over in their graves like an alley full of bowling balls.

**They are leaving it up to each state to "decide", with the result that many have instituted a lot of the controls that were proposed in NAIS. The feds have cleverly offered incentives in that they will withold funding from states that don't comply with USDA's wishes.