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[Yard full o' rocks]

Cyn....could a hock issue be "incubation related" as opposed to genetic related?? Kinda like curled toes??

 

[speckledhen]

No, not with these. Incubation went perfectly.

 

[Yard full o' rocks]

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Well DANG!

I'm with you, I hate culling anything, especially chicks. I had to do my first one ever last week and it was awful. Poor thing was born with most of its intestines outside the body. I still teared up when I put it down....even knowing its the right thing to do

 

[NellaBean]

Good lord, I leave for 8 hours and it all goes to hell in a handbasket.

I'll be over here eating Peanut Butter cookies if anyone needs me, LOL. Better to soothe my throat with.



Interesting thing here.....I have 1 blue egg layer here. A blue wheaten ameraucana hen. She just finally started laying last week.....She was probably close to 10 months old? Stinking bird. Maybe even older. Anyways, she is my only blue egg layer! I have never gotten a blue egg prior to her first egg last week. And since then, on 3 different days, I have gotten 2 blue eggs! What the heck? I have 3 olive eggers here and 1 easter egger. However the easter egger is half wellie, so should be an olive egger or at least dark brown layer. Definitely not a light mint blue. I have never been able to pinpoint her egg, but she was laying long before I started getting these blue eggs.

So anyways. I seriously have no other blue egg layers. NONE. Is at possible she is somehow laying 2 eggs on certain days while she is getting her egg stuff all worked out? I know everyone says NO its not possible....but I swear, I have no other blue egg layers!!

For big girls I have

3 RIR (2 varying shades of brown, 1 lays pink)
2 white leghorn (big white eggs)
3 white leghorn/giant (lay tinted light beige egg)
1 jersey giant (dark brown egg)
2 barred cochins (speckled tan eggs)
1 splash andalusian (white egg)
2 wheaten marans (dark brown eggs)
2 Welsummers (terracotta eggs)
1 easter egger (speckled dark brown, I think, definitely not blue)
3 olive eggers (all lay darkish green)
1 blue wheaten ameraucana (ONLY BLUE LAYER)

Those are my only large fowl girls of laying age. I only have 2 bantam girls in the flock, an easter egger who lays small green eggs and a gold laced cochin who lays tan eggs.

What is going on here!?

 

[PepsNick]

Alright, y'all... after some very nice words of encouragment from you all, I am back. Thank you sooo much. I love you guys! Nella, that is strange! But can't EE's lay different color eggs, on occasion? I think I heard someone say that their's switch from green to white. Weird! This will be very interesting to hear.

Cyn, I know nothing about your question, but maybe she's just old?

 

[kathyinmo]

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This is what I read. But it seems like there is another article I read. I will keep looking. Something about genes, rather than nutrition.

deficiencies of the following may cause:
*Vitamin B2 (clubbed down, curled toe, micromelia, degeneration of the myelin sheath of peripheral nerves, degeneration of embryonic Wolffan bodies)
*Biotin (chondrodystrophy, syndactyly, characteristic skeletal deformities, ataxia, and chondrodystrophy in newly hatched chicks)
*Folic Acid (chicks may be of normal appearance but die soon after pipping; in severe depletion chondrodystrophy, syndacryly, and parrot beak)
*Vitamin B12 (malposition, myoatrophy, chondrodystrophy, oedema, hemorrhage)
*Manganese (chondrodystrophy, parrot beak, globular head, cervicothoracic oedema, retarded down feather and body growth, micromelia and ataxia in newly hatched chicks) - bone formation defects are probably associated with abnormal mucopolysaccharide in the organic matrix of bone. Vitamin B12 and manganese deficiencies may be associated with extreme reduction in hatchability.


Definitions for those who may not know:

chondrodystrophy: A disturbance that affects the development of the cartilage of the long bones and that especially involves the region of the epiphysial plates, resulting in arrested growth of the long bones.

myoatrophy: atrophy or wasting away of the muscles.

syndactyly: A condition in which two or more of the toes are joined (fused) together.

oedema: The presence of an excessive amount of fluid in or around cells, tissues or serous (resembling, producing, or containing serum) cavities of the body.

micromelia: abnormally small and imperfectly developed extremities.

ataxia: shaky and unsteady movements or loss of the ability to coordinate muscular movement.

 

[kathyinmo]

Nella,
I think it's the Easter Egger.

 

[PepsNick]

Kathy, do those only have an effect on chicks, or adults too? Sorry for the question... I'm curious.

 

[kathyinmo]

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Well, the article is about nutrition in regards to hatching, so I am not sure. I would imagine a deficiency in adults would maybe not show up quite the same. Not sure though. Have to look for articles on adult symptoms with deficiencies.

 

[NellaBean]

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the easter egger is half Welsummer. I think she lays a dark speckled egg. I have been getting a really pretty dark egg with huge speckled blotches but am not positive whether it is her or one of the marans.

The gal on the left here (obviously! If that golden campine rooster lays a blue egg from his grave I will be amazed)