Sebastopol geese - selecting breeding stock, color genetics, and color improvement

[pips&peeps]

The colored birds need lots of improvement and the best way to do that is to breed to high quality white birds. From what I have seen, they really need improvement in the head and neck department first.

There are some instances where I have seen very high quality colored birds, but they are few and far between.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

I was told to stay away from whites with all of the colors we are working on. White masks color so there can be hidden color genes there that screw up a color breeding program. They also produce tons of dilute grey and splash which if you are working with Buff, Lilac, or Lavender you want to stay away from the masking of color the whites will bring. Greys can often be split to another color and if you arent sure if they are or arent that too can mess with the pastel based colors.

poultry yes you can breed son back to mom and daughter back to dad, try and avoid sibling to sibling.

 

[pips&peeps]

Well, that is why you keep records of where goslings hatched from, so you know what they are carrying. You can color code zip ties for leg bands from all your breedings.

 

[JosieChick]

I have a lavender gander that I acquired this fall who has decent overall type and a lovely head and neck. His feather quality is ok but could use improvement. What would be the best color goose to cross him with? I have grey, splash, saddleback and a white goose. I had intended on putting the white curly goose in a saddlback pen because she is recessive for blue saddle back and I have a nice gander I want to put her in with but I could change my plans still. Let me know what you guys think.

 

[Goose and Fig]

I am only going to be using blue and lav, and lav and lav together.Was really lucky to finally add a curly lav girl to the flock- woo hoo!

Read somewhere that lav in geese is two copies of blue, correct me if I am wrong.

I don't know if using grey will get you the more violet shade of lav, but would be interested to hear thoughts on this as well.

 

[Goose and Fig]

The colored birds need lots of improvement and the best way to do that is to breed to high quality white birds. From what I have seen, they really need improvement in the head and neck department first.

There are some instances where I have seen very high quality colored birds, but they are few and far between.

This is really the only reason I am keeping my curly whites. I think I have been pretty lucky as far as building a flock of colored birds that can compliment each other well for this season, but I am trying a white under a saddleback. It was a natural pairing, and they are both curly, so I won't complain!

 

[pips&peeps]

I believe gray X lavender = blue

I am not up on the specifics of color matings, but I am going to get some information on it so that I have the knowledge available.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Pete has all the color genetics worked out and shared on the Sebastopol lovers forum with color charts too.

Worth joining if you aren't there. If you are worth reading the knowledge he shared.

Amy can't wait to see off spring from your Lav girl.

We are selling all the whites in 2013 to focus on the colors. No white crossing here so we don't have to run so many extra pens for whites who might be masking a color.

 

[Goose and Fig]

Except for the white girl here (Suzette), I don't think I am going to even hatch from my whites or Toulouse this year at all. I can keep all the haitus birds together, so it will be less work.

The little smoothbreast dude won't be used this year either:




I am really excited about the lavs...and buff saddlebacks....gosh all of them! I can't wait til spring!!!!!

 

[pips&peeps]

If you don't breed for type and only breed for color, the birds will never get recognized.