Sebastopol geese - selecting breeding stock, color genetics, and color improvement

[Mrs. Fluffy Puffy]

No angel wing there.

Really? Well sweetness.

~ Aspen

 

[RURU]

Aspen I can not see AW or TWT. Take some more pictures and put them on again get closer to them so we can see if you do or don't have it. But on these I can not see AW or TWT. I do believe that people are calling straight feathers AW or TWT, Which are not the same.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Aspen, my goodness they dont look like the same birds from when you got them! So nice to see them all again, and see how grown out they are now and filled in.

 

[Cottage Rose]

On my website I have a wing disorder page where you can read up on the differences between TWT and AW.
Hope this helps.

 

[Mrs. Fluffy Puffy]

Aspen I can not see AW or TWT. Take some more pictures and put them on again get closer to them so we can see if you do or don't have it. But on these I can not see AW or TWT. I do believe that people are calling straight feathers AW or TWT, Which are not the same.

I'll try and get some pictures of their wings and post them. : )

Aspen, my goodness they dont look like the same birds from when you got them! So nice to see them all again, and see how grown out they are now and filled in.

Shellie, thank you honey.

When I got them they were wormy and needed some tender love and care. It's amazing what a good worming will do, along with fresh bathing water and a good diet. ginally Posted by Cottage Rose


I'll go brush up on my knowledge. Thanks sugar


This is why I love BYC so much. Thank you all for being here and sharing your wisdom and knowledge!

~ Aspen

 

[Meg09]

Hi there, this is a question for breeders, experienced keepers and judges- that raise waterfowel and know what they are looking at. So as someone new to geese and poultry alike, looking to get into sebatapoles and one day eventually breed; what advice can you give as far as what to look for when selecting adults, hatchlings, and where to buy from. Ive had geese before- crosses and chickens that were less than breed standard, but at the time justt wanted birds around. Now Im much more serious about getting into certain breeds, such as sebs. I should mention I never bred my poultry and Im still researching breeds it wouldnt be until perhaps fall where I would even start looking at buying.

 

[Meg09]

Oops forgot to mention that im looking to start with whites first the perfect them, but again very new to this and need to get better at IDing the breed standard, and the quality of sebs themselves.

 

[pips&peeps]

If you are truly interested in breeding whites to standard, I would suggest buying a standard of perfection from the APA. I would also suggest going to some shows in CA so you can look at the birds being shown and you can talk to breeders who actually exhibit birds. You might also be able to talk to judges while at shows.

It is hard to judge a sebastopol gosling for type, so waiting until fall would be a good time to get some started birds. Getting started in sebastopols shouldn't cost you an arm and a leg. You should be able to get a decent pair for around $200-$250.

Ask the breeder tons of questions, what their goals are, where their stock came from, if they have fertility issues, etc.

Good luck,

PS There is a show in Stockton at the end of the month.

 

[Meg09]

Thank you so much! Yes my friend will be showing his birds (chickens) at that show, im also going to a smaller show this weekend.. I would love to get into colors eventually but i think whites are great for starting out. Thank you very much and I will certainly do that and keep checking with the forum and getting more onfo thank you again!

 

[kimberly35042]

If you are truly interested in breeding whites to standard, I would suggest buying a standard of perfection from the APA. I would also suggest going to some shows in CA so you can look at the birds being shown and you can talk to breeders who actually exhibit birds. You might also be able to talk to judges while at shows.

It is hard to judge a sebastopol gosling for type, so waiting until fall would be a good time to get some started birds. Getting started in sebastopols shouldn't cost you an arm and a leg. You should be able to get a decent pair for around $200-$250.

Ask the breeder tons of questions, what their goals are, where their stock came from, if they have fertility issues, etc.

Good luck,

PS There is a show in Stockton at the end of the month.

DITTO! In my opinion, you cannot at all even necessarily get the sex right of a hatchling much less know how it will turn out. Even though you have an idea of quality at say, 6 months, I have a 2012 gander right now that is maturing more like a yearling colt -- still long and lanky and still piling on feathers. His hormones sure have turned on though!

If you really would like to breed for quality (colored or whites), in my opinion, whites should be easier as in general better quality stock can be found in more local places so you can spend money on feathers and type over shipping which is a royal PITA.
You might also find some decent grey saddlebacks as they have been worked on quite a bit when Holderread's introduced color into the white birds.

Good luck!