Sebastopol Goose Color Question-- Light Buff Splash?? -- Pic HEAVY!

[pete55]

Hi All

What a great find and lovely type with Dad a very handsome fellow. The younger female is questionable with colour though I can see the buff colouration of the wing areas. Mom appears to be a Buff Saddleback and that mating should produce;

50% Dilute Saddleback Males (split for Buff) and 50% White females.

However if the Father was split for buff (he'd still appear as a visual white) then the mating would give;

25% Dilute Grey Saddleback Males (split for Buff)
25% Dilute Buff Saddleback Males
50% White females.

Are you certain the youngster is a female???

A cream should appear as a 'pinky' mushroom colour and the result of a combination of Blue and Buff genes so I think this colour can be ruled out. You're right in questioning a Dilute Buff and I have seen one of similar colour but genetically it wont work out with the parent stock you have.

Finally I have to say that it'll be interestingif the colour remains when the youngster moults out as I have seen similar colours on Embdens whose feathers were stained and moulted out white the following season.

Whatever the colour they're a fantastic addition with lovely type and feather - CONGRATULATIONS

 

[kimberly35042]

ah genetics!! What a lovely way to say she's probably a GA clay stained goose!!

Actually, I don't know that she is a goose, but that is what the people told me. Other than the 1 smooth/smooth saddleback gander (pretty obvious here), they all have very demur shy personalities so its hard to say for sure that she is a girl. I spy on them regularly from the upstairs bath (WC?) window but they still seem to be adjusting with no interest in breeding activities.

We've had a really mild winter but still no fun dumping their kiddie pools at 30 degrees this morning. Hopefully the fresh water each morning will inspire them for love . meanwhile, I'll keep my eyes out for some activity!!

I wonder if there is any chance Holderread's would keep records and if so would give me the information....guess it couldn't hurt to try!

Thank you for your wisdom!
Kim

 

[pete55]

Im sure breeding activity will start in the next few weeks as its still very early in the season yet. Certainly filling their pool with fresh water daily will do no harm and does get them excited as the breeding season approaches.

Keep watching their behaviour and within a few weeks I think you'll see indications of their sexes and its interesting to watch their interactions.

Pete

 

[kimberly35042]

Hi All

What a great find and lovely type with Dad a very handsome fellow. The younger female is questionable with colour though I can see the buff colouration of the wing areas. Mom appears to be a Buff Saddleback and that mating should produce;

50% Dilute Saddleback Males (split for Buff) and 50% White females.

However if the Father was split for buff (he'd still appear as a visual white) then the mating would give;

25% Dilute Grey Saddleback Males (split for Buff)
25% Dilute Buff Saddleback Males
50% White females.

Are you certain the youngster is a female???

A cream should appear as a 'pinky' mushroom colour and the result of a combination of Blue and Buff genes so I think this colour can be ruled out. You're right in questioning a Dilute Buff and I have seen one of similar colour but genetically it wont work out with the parent stock you have.

Finally I have to say that it'll be interestingif the colour remains when the youngster moults out as I have seen similar colours on Embdens whose feathers were stained and moulted out white the following season.

Whatever the colour they're a fantastic addition with lovely type and feather - CONGRATULATIONS

so playing devil's advocate here -- what if DAD was splash gander? Still assuming mom is the buff saddleback.... huh?? huh??

guy in the middle has lovely spots when he opens his wings and cute mascara spot above his eye (below)...

Oh, confirmation that she's definately a girl and really interested in breeding. Here's a couple more shots of splash gander and closeup of her feathers...

splash gander



closeup of her feathers - still stinking dirty?? I'm just not sure at all.

 

[pete55]

Hi

If the father was a Splash that was also split for Buff then there is a possibility of a Dilute Buff female.

It seems the Buffs are very desirable and certainly no harm in keeping your fingers crossed

We've also got a Splash Gander that's split for buff so we're hoping to breedour first Buff Sebastopols this season

 

[kimberly35042]

Thank you Pete

so are there any pics of a dilute buff somewhere in the www??

 

[pete55]

Hi

I believe the bird on the right is a Dilute Buff Sebastopol, not such a good picture but it gives the idea.

 

[kimberly35042]

I don't think my girl has the buff head, but I'm still leaning toward some shade of buff on the body feathers. It really doesn't matter to me, i like her size and shape and her head is the prettiest of all of them. Not sure how she compares to the "standard", but i like the way her bill ties into her head. And she has a pretty expression (if that's possible in geese!).