**~~>>Second Annual Cinco de Mayo Turkey Hatchathon<<~~**all poultry welcome!

All the talk about eggsploding eggs, and I realized I had never actually smelled that smell, though plenty of people have described it as the worst thing they’ve ever smelled.

Today I went to check on birds and noticed one of my duck’s eggs was beside her instead of under her. I picked it up to put it back under, thinking she had just lost it while turning them, and got a faint whiff of a somewhat unpleasant odor. So I decided to candle it before returning it to her – just in case. To my surprise, while candling, I couldn’t find the air cell. I tried and tried, turning it this way and that, but no. It was completely dark though, definitely not a “clear”.

To be on the safe side, I placed it in a grocery sack, tied a knot in the top, and then – outside – tapped it very, very lightly against a corner, to try to break a small hole in the air cell end so I could figure out what was going on. The grocery sack was one of my most brilliant ideas today. The egg eggsploded like it was under pressure and even through the plastic, and with the contents contained, the smell was, well, every bit as bad as y’all have said.

I guess I am curious though – does anyone know why this happened? Is this a chick that started to develop, died and rotted? Or was this never a developing egg? For reference, this was a Muscovy egg on day 28 – about a week to go.

In turkey news, I am feeling rather disconsolate. Today is hatch day for my first four RP's, and they were under a broody hen who also had 3 chicken eggs. The chicks hatched yesterday but the broody was still sitting tight on her nest, growling when I went near. Nevertheless, I checked back often, eager for my first glimpse of a poult. On my last check, the broody was off the nest. I checked it and the four turkey eggs were still there. The first three I picked up weren't even pipped, but the fourth was. I peeled back a little shell nest to the pip, enough to be able to press on the membrane - no response. So I peeled back and little more and little more and then suddenly there was blood and then I detected a slight movement. Realizing it was still alive after all, I raced back to the house, trying to figure out what to do with it. Both my Rcoms are full so I took a small towel and placed it over the top of one set of eggs, put the 4 RP eggs on the towel, turned off the turner and upped the humidity. The other eggs in there are muscovies on day 13 and I figure the increased humidity and lack of turning for a day will affect them less than the other incubator that is full of turkey eggs on day 2. If anyone thinks I'm wrong about that, don't be shy about saying so - I don't really want to lose any of them.

Anyway, the poult is still breathing so I'm just completely hands off right now and letting nature take its course. I don't expect it to make it after losing all that blood but I have to give it a chance. At least I know its nothing I did wrong (during incubation) since the broody was the one incubating it. I'm a little dismayed none of the others have even pipped though.
 
HEChicken I think you are doing the right thing by the turkey eggs. The poult will probably be OK depending on how much blood there was. I can't answer your question about the duck egg.
 
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Haven't been on here in a while... wow, it's been busy! We have poults & I couldn't resist posting a pic, they're a mixed bunch and all look different, I can't wait to see how they feather out, 9 so far and the other 5 have pipped :)

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All the talk about eggsploding eggs, and I realized I had never actually smelled that smell, though plenty of people have described it as the worst thing they’ve ever smelled.

Today I went to check on birds and noticed one of my duck’s eggs was beside her instead of under her. I picked it up to put it back under, thinking she had just lost it while turning them, and got a faint whiff of a somewhat unpleasant odor. So I decided to candle it before returning it to her – just in case. To my surprise, while candling, I couldn’t find the air cell. I tried and tried, turning it this way and that, but no. It was completely dark though, definitely not a “clear”.

To be on the safe side, I placed it in a grocery sack, tied a knot in the top, and then – outside – tapped it very, very lightly against a corner, to try to break a small hole in the air cell end so I could figure out what was going on. The grocery sack was one of my most brilliant ideas today. The egg eggsploded like it was under pressure and even through the plastic, and with the contents contained, the smell was, well, every bit as bad as y’all have said.

I guess I am curious though – does anyone know why this happened? Is this a chick that started to develop, died and rotted? Or was this never a developing egg? For reference, this was a Muscovy egg on day 28 – about a week to go.

In turkey news, I am feeling rather disconsolate. Today is hatch day for my first four RP's, and they were under a broody hen who also had 3 chicken eggs. The chicks hatched yesterday but the broody was still sitting tight on her nest, growling when I went near. Nevertheless, I checked back often, eager for my first glimpse of a poult. On my last check, the broody was off the nest. I checked it and the four turkey eggs were still there. The first three I picked up weren't even pipped, but the fourth was. I peeled back a little shell nest to the pip, enough to be able to press on the membrane - no response. So I peeled back and little more and little more and then suddenly there was blood and then I detected a slight movement. Realizing it was still alive after all, I raced back to the house, trying to figure out what to do with it. Both my Rcoms are full so I took a small towel and placed it over the top of one set of eggs, put the 4 RP eggs on the towel, turned off the turner and upped the humidity. The other eggs in there are muscovies on day 13 and I figure the increased humidity and lack of turning for a day will affect them less than the other incubator that is full of turkey eggs on day 2. If anyone thinks I'm wrong about that, don't be shy about saying so - I don't really want to lose any of them.

Anyway, the poult is still breathing so I'm just completely hands off right now and letting nature take its course. I don't expect it to make it after losing all that blood but I have to give it a chance. At least I know its nothing I did wrong (during incubation) since the broody was the one incubating it. I'm a little dismayed none of the others have even pipped though.

rotten eggs are caused by bacteria entering the egg.. there COULD have been an embryo in there at some point in time.. however the bacteria would have killed it off. An egg can go rotten regardless of being fertilized or not.. it all depends on if the bacteria can breach the shell through a pore or a crack

which is why it's always important to keep things as clean as possible when dealing with incubation

as for the turkey and muscovy eggs...

the poult may make it.. you may however need to assist the hatch since you breached the shell.. give it time.. check on it often and watch for the blood to be drawn down from the veins.. if the poult has high enough humidity and hasn't lost too much blood he should hatch just fine.. however if the membrane dries out too much or if he's too weak or if the dried blood glues him to the shell you'll need to assist if you want him to survive.
The choice to assist is yours since it's your eggs... but if you do decide that intervention is needed.. just remember to go slow.. watch the veins so you don't end up causing any more blood loss. And allow him time to absorb the yolk

HEChicken I think you are doing the right thing by the turkey eggs. The poult will probably be OK depending on how much blood there was. I can't answer your question about the duck egg.

The ducks should be fine with extra humidity for a couple days. Just drop it a bit low for a few days after the poults hatch to compensate.

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once the poults are done with the hatch drop the humidity in the bator back to as low as you can go (go dry for a few days) to help compensate for the extra humidity .. monitor the air cells after a few days and make sure they are still on track then adjust humidity as needed


 
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Okay, the promised test turkey love.

The fifth poult hatched with a small bit of unabsorbed yolk. I left it in the hatcher overnight and everything looked fairly dried out this morning. I put it in with the others and tutor chicks, of course by the time I went back to check, the chicks had picked it bloody. So it's resting back in the hatcher on it's own. It looks fine, but missed the photo op.



If the size of the snood at hatch was an indicator, I'd go a boy and three girls.
 
Absolutely!!! I just posted this on the Old Folks Home thread:

OK I just have to share a tip I learned on the internet for making hard boiled eggs out of freshly laid eggs. I have tried all kinds of different methods. Salt in the water, Eggies (they really are horrible to clean), starting with cold water, putting the eggs in already boiling water and even tried the baking method. All of those produced the same result of losing a lot of the white when peeling the eggs. I just tried this new method on 18 eggs that were laid over this past week. Before putting the eggs in the water, take a tack or some other tool that will make a small hole (I used a small skewer that people use for baking turkeys) and pierce the large end of the egg just enough to get through the shell but trying not to break the membrane (if you break the membrane, no big deal you will just loose a little of the whites while the egg is cooking). Get the water boiling first (this keeps the yolk from getting that greenish tinge) and then slowly lower the eggs into the boiling water. You will see air bubbles escaping from the hole that you made in the egg. Cook for 12 to 15 minutes (depending on how hard boiled you want them). Right after they finish cooking put the eggs in an ice water bath for 15 minutes. You can crack them up a little before you put them in the cold water if you like. After chilling them, I like to crack the shells up a bunch to make it easier to peel them. It was sooooooooo much easier to get under the membrane and peel those eggs. I didn't loose a bit of the whites when I was peeling them.

I make hard boiled eggs from my fresh eggs all of the time. I have the eggs at room temp, get the water boiling, spoon the eggs in, wait to come back to boil, then reduce heat to a mild boil for 14 minutes or so. I take them out and into a bowl full of ice water with lots of ice, allowing them to chill completely to the touch. Then I toss the bowl of eggs with shells intact into the fridge overnight (or keep in an ice bath for at least 30 minutes, allowing the egg to contract away from the shell). I crack them by tapping the aircell end, then rotating the egg around with aircell down to give me a good breakage near the aircell, where I start to peel the egg, then usually roll the egg once on the counter...often not bothering to crack the small end much. The fresh ones peel just a nice as the older eggs, sometimes squirting out of the shell if pressure is put on the end of the crushed shell after cracking. Very rarely have egg stick to the membrane.
 

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