Self Blue (Lavender) Silkie Thread

[Sonoran Silkies]

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[Sonoran Silkies]

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WHY? Seems like a bonus that you can get two pure colours from one pen.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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They are equally important.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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[Sonoran Silkies]

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Well this is exactly WHY I requested the input of the genetic pro's. I'm upset for paying so much not getting a single chick from those eggs that were true to the ad. I dont really want to give a name, I'm not really thrilled since I've spent 2yrs already trying to aquire quality birds/stock for my program. Back to square one, I guess

Very Frustrating!!

I bought my lav's from a woman in Illinois who stated they were from Bren's stock. Until I heard back from Bren on that one, I did not bid! Even though Bren confirmed the sale, I was still taking a risk. Perhaps these weren't the actual birds she had bought from Bren? Luckily they have proven to be true lavs. I would have been ticked considering the price I paid for these birds if they proved not to be true lavs! IT's sad you have to be so distrustful but there are a lot of not so honest (or just plain ignorant) folks out there!

Quite frankly, I think it is more ignorance than dishonesty.

 

[AHappychick]

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wow I cant imagine where it came from as these birds making the white babies are my f2 and f3 generation, so I dont have any idea where the white came from. how many generations can genes go back or is there no end?

you said to Darling farms to not cull their hen making whites, but wont those whites not breed true cause they were from lavs? or is the white dominant enough to really be "white" and could be reffered to as such? In other words if I take my white babies from my PI project pen and put in with my white flock will they make more whites or muddy colored chicks? I know some would be white cause it has that "lab coat dominant quality" but would it spit out a lot of mixed birds too?

 

[LilPeeps]

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wow I cant imagine where it came from as these birds making the white babies are my f2 and f3 generation, so I dont have any idea where the white came from. how many generations can genes go back or is there no end?

you said to Darling farms to not cull their hen making whites, but wont those whites not breed true cause they were from lavs? or is the white dominant enough to really be "white" and could be reffered to as such? In other words if I take my white babies from my PI project pen and put in with my white flock will they make more whites or muddy colored chicks? I know some would be white cause it has that "lab coat dominant quality" but would it spit out a lot of mixed birds too?

They can be used in a regular white pen. most whites have a bunch of non-white genes in their background, but you never see it because the white masks it. That's why it's not recommended to breed white with a non-white variety when trying to keep colors pure, because you never know what you're going to get.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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wow I cant imagine where it came from as these birds making the white babies are my f2 and f3 generation, so I dont have any idea where the white came from. how many generations can genes go back or is there no end?

you said to Darling farms to not cull their hen making whites, but wont those whites not breed true cause they were from lavs? or is the white dominant enough to really be "white" and could be reffered to as such? In other words if I take my white babies from my PI project pen and put in with my white flock will they make more whites or muddy colored chicks? I know some would be white cause it has that "lab coat dominant quality" but would it spit out a lot of mixed birds too?

They can be used in a regular white pen. most whites have a bunch of non-white genes in their background, but you never see it because the white masks it. That's why it's not recommended to breed white with a non-white variety when trying to keep colors pure, because you never know what you're going to get.

Agreed, they are white. White does not dilute colour; it prevents whatever colour is genetically present from showing. It can hide for many, many generations; any recessive gene can. You can use them with the colour pen they came from, or in a white pen. In the colour pen, all their offspring will receive a copy of recessive white; those who receive it from the other parent will be white; those who do not should be the proper colour. One thing you can say about these whites is that you KNOW their genetic background.

 

[AHappychick]

cool

i am gonna get some pics today of my funny mixed ones that are splits (some even splits that were then breed back to lav but they are off colored very very cute though.

I have a bunch of new sizzles too i think I am going to try for sizzled lavs I love the sizzle as I did not think a silkie could look any fluffier but I was wrong

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Here are 2 of the weird mixed colored ones get from my pi pen

the 2

you can see the 2nd one peaking its head around one of the lavs

1st one

2nd one

 

[Darling Farms]

Darling farms, When breeding is it more important that the rooster be high quality or the hen? Both is ideal, but that never happens. Does one sex have more influence over the offspring's characteristics than the other?

I want some lavender babies and have your black/split lavender cockerel and pullet. (I think I have one male and one female, they are still young).

Would it be most important to purchase a top notch lavender Rooster or a lavender Hen to mate with my splits if I can only afford one of the two?

I agree that BOTH are important!

Here are my thoughts:

~Good roosters tend to be more versatile in the beginning of a breeding program... just my opinion. But that depends on what you want to do...

~It seem to me like strong genes are important. We raise ONLY a few birds so we can tell just by type and personality which birds came from which parents. Some birds produce birds like them and NOT the other parent.... some don't.

HUMAN example... our son looks exactly like me... not my husband. I have been telling him that this MUST mean that my genes are stronger and superior

. I am waiting for him to agree! Some people produce offspring that blend... some don't.

Our lavender roosters genes seem to not be as strong as some of our lavender hens. When we breed him back to black hens he seems to show through in the babies. When we breed him back to lavender hens we can tell with hens are the mothers easily... none of the offspring seem to take after the father in type or personality.

This is only my opinion based on our observation. How one would go about choosing a bird based on this system... almost imposable... so it's not very practical.

~Maybe wait until your little guys grow out and see which type you like better then pick the opposite!

~Observation is important and there isn't a clear answer to your question. My suggestion is to be flexible as your program progresses and prepare yourself for one bird or another not producing what you want. It will take a lot of time... but what fun on the way!



Sonoran

If we had enough people who wanted whites or more room then we wouldn't think of it! Anyone want whites... come and get 'em!​