Serv´s up.........what´s this, then?


Can you help me with these two?? I believe the white is an Embden female but not sure about the other one. The toulouse looking one mates with the white one but i have never seen a "noodle". And yesterday they both laid an egg but according to this photo one of the eggs is fertile.

So now I am really confused as to how I can have only two geese, both of them lay eggs, and some of the eggs are fertile.

Help??
How wonderfully curious!! Well, time will tell....As for seeing noodles, I´ve never seen any of my ganders´, but I do know they have them!
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Tell me, when the toulouse 'mates' with the embden, does it do a call of triumph and hooting and lots of 'conquest' noises? In other words, does it behave like a gander? The other thing is, have you only just acquired them within the last month, for instance?
 
Sometimes he does a victory lap around the pool with wings spread and lots of honking after. BUT sometimes he mates her head and not her backside. So I'm just not sure if it's a dominance thing or actual mating. I have actually literally SEEN an egg come out of BOTH of them so now I am fairly sure they are both females. The eggs in the incubator are on day 4 with no signs of veining yet. So I doubt that they are fertile even though they have the bullseye. :/
 
Have you had the geese for awhile? O did you just get them? Because a female goose can hold the sperm for a bit to fertilize them. The only answer I can come up with on this is one of your geese is a hermaphrodite which does happen in animals and birds as well as human. This means both male and female parts they have....
 
I raised both of them together from little babies. Hermaphrodite. Wow that would be interesting. LOL. So how would I go about testing that theory? Take them to a vet? Would the DNA feather sexing test work to test for that?
 
Sometimes he does a victory lap around the pool with wings spread and lots of honking after. BUT sometimes he mates her head and not her backside. So I'm just not sure if it's a dominance thing or actual mating. I have actually literally SEEN an egg come out of BOTH of them so now I am fairly sure they are both females. The eggs in the incubator are on day 4 with no signs of veining yet. So I doubt that they are fertile even though they have the bullseye. :/
I´ve had a female 'mate' with another female when there wasn´t a gander available, but she didn´t do any victory lap...it was just the sitting on the back thing. Interesting the eggs aren´t fertile. Interesting that you´ve definitely seen eggs come out of them both. So, you have two females, basically. We´re all intrigued about the hermaphrodite theory....let us know, won´t you?
 
I am no expert on the hermaphrodite. But It is when an animal or anything is born with both sexes. The reason I know this is I bought my very first Great Dane and she exhibited female, but had lots of extra breast and was pouchy around the vulva area. She came into season and bled brown blood. So we thought she had an infection in the uterus. She was spay and neutered at the same time. She had a very small uterus and had a penis and gonads inside her. So had to be spay and neutered at the same time. That is when we found out about hermaphrodites.

Not sure about how to find out if you have that or not but I would think that DNA testing might tell you. To me I do not see a bulls eye around on the two eggs just the normal dot. Maybe I am not looking right at them....??
 
I am no expert on the hermaphrodite. But It is when an animal or anything is born with both sexes. The reason I know this is I bought my very first Great Dane and she exhibited female, but had lots of extra breast and was pouchy around the vulva area. She came into season and bled brown blood. So we thought she had an infection in the uterus. She was spay and neutered at the same time. She had a very small uterus and had a penis and gonads inside her. So had to be spay and neutered at the same time. That is when we found out about hermaphrodites.

Not sure about how to find out if you have that or not but I would think that DNA testing might tell you. To me I do not see a bulls eye around on the two eggs just the normal dot. Maybe I am not looking right at them....??
You know, Ruru I was thinking the same thing about the egg, too. One is obviously infertile, but the other I just can´t quite make up my mind...it has that little circle, but only just...not as obvious as I´ve seen before. I´m in two minds on that one.
 
I have looked at the two geese and both look like females. Neither one of them hold the neck up tall and high like a gander would. I have had eggs look like the one where you can not make up you mind livin and it was not fertile!

So catwmn how are the eggs in the incubator doing any spider vein yet? If not take them out and dispose of them because not fertile...
 

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