setting up my first coop= run issues

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Ive run into a brick wall ive been looking at council regs in regards to constructing a run.. We dont need approval however if the run is roofed or fully enclosed then it needs to be 1.5m from fenceline on our property which would take up most of the space we had planned for run.. Has anyone done non enclosed runs?? Can i see pictures i dont see hawks etc being a problem my main concern is keeping chickens in while were at work
 
What do they consider fully enclosed? Can you put wire across the top?

Some people put netting or string across the top to deter hawks and keep the chickens in. It would do nothing for climbing predators.
 
They had cage in brackets so im assuming thats wire mesh roof aswell. Not worried about climbing predators we have 2 dogs on the property
 
I would try the netting and see if that works. You don't have to attache it, just drape it across the top of the run. You could always clip one of their wings to make them not "as" flight capable.

You could also put wire across the run and leave a place in the middle open, then it wouldn't be considered "enclosed".
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Talk to your council and get them to explain what it means. I’d guess the concern for them would have to do with rainwater running onto your neighbor’s property but they might have something else in mind. If you talk to them at least you know what you are dealing with.

Many people have open top runs. I have a large area surrounded with electric netting and hawks all over the place but have never lost a chicken to a hawk. Many people have though, it is a risk. Climbing predators will be a risk on your open top run too, but still the run is a deterrent to many predators. No one can give you any guarantees on any of this but you might be quite successful with an open top run. I’d certainly lock them in a safe coop at night.

The other issue is that the chickens might get out. Many people would be shocked at how high a full-sized chicken can fly if they really want to. Many people keep chickens contained in a relatively low fence. The key is motivation. Some chickens are pretty easy to contain, others really like to roam. It’s hard to predict what a living animal will do. They are all different.

Mine stay within that 4 feet (1.3 meter) high electric netting without much problem, but that is a huge area. When one does get out it is usually because there was a pecking order/dominance issue with young cockerels or a hen was trying to escape an amorous rooster. They get trapped against the fence and go vertical trying to escape. Sometimes they come down on the wrong side of that netting. If I were you I’d build it about two meters high and hope for the best if it is open topped. If it has a top you need to be able to walk in there without banging your head anyway. That hurts.

Something else to avoid is a solid top to the fence. Chickens really like to perch. If you have something on the top of your fence that looks like a good place to perch, they are very likely to fly up there just for the joy of perching. They might decide to hop down on either side of that perch. If you leave wire sticking up a few centimeters above your top fencing horizontal support they are a lot less likely to fly up there.

I suspect if you chat with your council you will get a good answer on this. Sure hope so. Otherwise, good luck.
 
Generally, the setback rule applies only to 'permanent' structures. If you went with a tractor design, it is movable and therefore not permanent.

^^^ Good advice from Ridgerunner imo.
 
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Yes but can u do a tractor for 12 chickens? Ill contact my council today and see what they say
 
Anyways ive contacted council so ill give them some time to reply..

I was at my local hardware store today and came across bird netting for fruit trees and crops i wonder if i could just drape something like that across cause then it would be removable and not perminant??
 
Yes but can u do a tractor for 12 chickens? Ill contact my council today and see what they say

You might need an actual tractor to move it... The one that I built is probably ideal for 4 birds. I have 9 in there now and I think it's too small. I intended to tug it around with my four-wheeler, and it won't even budge. I have to move it with the Jeep.
 

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