Severe Deep Bumblefoot please help!

[Quailsducks33]

my quail has a very deep, severe bumblefoot infection I have been treating for several months.

two rounds of very strong antibiotics, twice daily Epsom salt soaks, PRID drawing salve for months did nothing.

finally did surgery 6 weeks ago, popped out several kernels and much improved.
Can feel another large rock type kernel in her foot, cut open tonight and it was terrible! I could see so many hard chunks of infection but could NOT get them out!

I squeezed, pulled with tweezers, tried to cut with scalpel (my poor sweet girl) and could not remove it!
I had to cut very deep and I’m sure it was painful. don’t know what to do now

please give me advice/suggestions if you have experience with this!

 

[dawg53]

You're going to have soak the foot in warm epsom salts water for about 30 minutes. Then go in the footpad and continue what you're doing. Squeeze the heck out of the footpad and manipulating it at the same time should work.
Another non invasive option is Tricide Neo. I've used it and it works well with small/medium bumblefoot problems. Here's a link:
See post #2:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/treating-bumblefoot-with-tricide-neo.513183/

 

[Quailsducks33]

You're going to have soak the foot in warm epsom salts water for about 30 minutes. Then go in the footpad and continue what you're doing. Squeeze the heck out of the footpad and manipulating it at the same time should work.
Another non invasive option is Tricide Neo. I've used it and it works well with small/medium bumblefoot problems. Here's a link:
See post #2:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/treating-bumblefoot-with-tricide-neo.513183/

I don’t know if soaking & squeezing will loosen it up - it’s really attached in there, possibly to her bone

 

[dawg53]

I'm wondering if it might be gout instead of bumblefoot. How old is your quail? Gout usually occurs in older birds. I found this link by TwoCrows, read it if you get the chance: Post #2.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/gout-bumblefoot-or-treatment-see-photos.1064722/#:~:text=Gout is a form of arthritis and effects,have an very old male quail with gout.

 

[Quailsducks33]

I'm wondering if it might be gout instead of bumblefoot. How old is your quail? Gout usually occurs in older birds. I found this link by TwoCrows, read it if you get the chance: Post #2.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/gout-bumblefoot-or-treatment-see-photos.1064722/#:~:text=Gout is a form of arthritis and effects,have an very old male quail with gout.

It’s definitely not gout, I’ve gotten several kernels of infection out in surgery 6 weeks ago. It’s bumblefoot - these are pics from last several months. It’s no longer nearly as swollen since I removed those kernels.
she has more kernels now but they are firmly stuck in there & that is where the issue is.