Sex link?? Or No?

[Floridabirds]

New to BYC. And have a question about hybrids. In our coop we have A Rhode Island Red Roo who is the boss. And a silver laced Wyandotte Roo. And Delaware hens and silver laced hens. We are hatching the Red Star chicks. But obviously the silver laced is getting in there too. Question is will the silver laced Roo crossing with a Delaware be an identifiable linked chick as the red stars are?

 

[Floridabirds]

Quick add on here. 2 of them just hatched. 1 black chick and 1 red chick

 

[Lady of McCamley]

RIR roo over your Silver Lace and Delawares will be sex linked. Males yellow chick down. Females red fawn chick down.

Any chicks sired by your Silver Lace roo will NOT be sex linked. It must be red roo over silver female to be sex linked.

The female carries the short gene (Z long gene, W short gene). Her Z gene will have silver which is dominant only over red. So a male Z (red from dad) and Z (silver from mom) will be silver.

Females are Z (red from dad) and W (no color gene from mom as that is on the Z strand). So the females come out red.

LofMc

 

[Lady of McCamley]

I think your black chick is actually dark grey, from the base of the Silver Laced which is silver lacing on a grey base. That will be either sex.

Red should be female indicating from the red roo as likely the grey ground base on the Silver Laced roo will trump over the silver and red in the hens. Notice that silver laced wyandotte chicks are actually grey downed with some coloring indicating silver lacing to come.

My thoughts.
LofMc

 

[Floridabirds]

I think your black chick is actually dark grey, from the base of the Silver Laced which is silver lacing on a grey base. That will be either sex.

Red should be female indicating from the red roo as likely the grey ground base on the Silver Laced roo will trump over the silver and red in the hens. Notice that silver laced wyandotte chicks are actually grey downed with some coloring indicating silver lacing to come.

My thoughts.
LofMc

RIR roo over your Silver Lace and Delawares will be sex linked. Males yellow chick down. Females red fawn chick down.

Any chicks sired by your Silver Lace roo will NOT be sex linked. It must be red roo over silver female to be sex linked.

RIR roo over your Silver Lace and Delawares will be sex linked. Males yellow chick down. Females red fawn chick down.

Any chicks sired by your Silver Lace roo will NOT be sex linked. It must be red roo over silver female to be sex linked.

The female carries the short gene (Z long gene, W short gene). Her Z gene will have silver which is dominant only over red. So a male Z (red from dad) and Z (silver from mom) will be silver.

Females are Z (red from dad) and W (no color gene from mom as that is on the Z strand). So the females come out red.

LofMc

The female carries the short gene (Z long gene, W short gene). Her Z gene will have silver which is dominant only over red. So a male Z (red from dad) and Z (silver from mom) will be silver.

Females are Z (red from dad) and W (no color gene from mom as that is on the Z strand). So the females come out red.

LofMc

 

[Floridabirds]

Thank you. I wasn’t sure how all that worked. So we will end up with red stars and mutts. Lol.

 

[Lady of McCamley]

Yep. Red Stars and mutts.

 

[NatJ]

All the red chicks will be pullets.
The red star cockerels, and the mutts of both sexes, will be silver.
And the "mutt" pullets could later be crossed to your red rooster to produce more sexlinks, if you want.

 

[Lady of McCamley]

It could get messy re-crossing the grey based mutts (actually technically black patterned incomplete silver laced males and black patterned incomplete gold laced females) to red to produce sex links. The black base is working against you, and the further you breed away from complete lacing, you lose what will indicate your sexing colors.

Silver Laced Wyandottes are not nice silver ground based birds like a Delaware. Silver Laced are ground base black with silver lacing....so you will have sex links of red roo over that... but it is only the lacing secondary colors that will hold true for yellow male, gold female. That can be harder to detect on grey-black chick down. You will have to wait until the grow older.

Rebreed the incomplete lacing to a red based bird, and I think you'll just end up with a lot of black down chicks with some color bleed through that won't be obvious on chick down as you've lost the silver lacing pretty much....which is the sex linking property....red over silver.

My thoughts.
LofMc

 

[NatJ]

It could get messy re-crossing the grey based mutts (actually technically black patterned incomplete silver laced males and black patterned incomplete gold laced females) to red to produce sex links.

I was talking about the pullets who have a Silver Laced Wyandotte father and a Delaware mother, or the pure Silver Laced Wyandotte pullets. They will be (when mature) silver with various amounts of black patterns, and could be crossed to the Rhode Island Red rooster to get sexlinks.

Whether you could see the color on the chick down I do not know, but you would certainly be able to see it in the feathers as they grow.

The "black patterned incomplete gold laced females" would be the ones with the Rhode Island Red father, and could not be the mothers of sexlinks--because they are gold.