Sex- linked Information

[aoxa]

Can anyone tell me if I can use partridge males in a black sex link cross?

The male breeds I have:
Barred Rocks
Silkies
Easter Eggers (hiding recessive white)
Partridge Cochin
Houdans
Naked Neck Turken
Bantam Ameraucanas (Blue)

Any of those work?

 

[catdaddyfro]

Partridge male X BR female=BSL

Gold gene over Barring gene
Look on the first page on this thread Tim has a chart with the combos on it to make Black sex links or Red sex links


Jeff

 

[aoxa]

Partridge male X BR female=BSL

Gold gene over Barring gene
Look on the first page on this thread Tim has a chart with the combos on it to make Black sex links or Red sex links


Jeff

I checked, and didn't see partridge listed.

Thanks

I'll get a good size male bird out of it for eating - so that's definitely a plus!

 

[catdaddyfro]

I checked, and didn't see partridge listed.
Thanks

I'll get a good size male bird out of it for eating - so that's definitely a plus!

Yeah its there. In group 3/brown eb section partrigde rock, wyandotte,ect... LOL

good luck have fun I love cross breeds I got lots of them.LOL

Jeff

 

[aoxa]

I checked, and didn't see partridge listed.

Thanks

I'll get a good size male bird out of it for eating - so that's definitely a plus!

Yeah its there. In group 3/brown eb section partrigde rock, wyandotte,ect... LOL

good luck have fun I love cross breeds I got lots of them.LOL

Jeff

See it now! Thanks

I've done the crossing the opposite way and got great results for meat, but it would be nice to know at hatch who the boys are and the girls - so I can sell the girls off to pay for feed for the boys

 

[Ridgerunner]

Jeff, I know I'm being a bit picky, but gold has nothing to do with a black sex link. That's only for a red sex link. You can use a Black Australorp which should have silver as the rooster over a barred hen and it works fine.

Aoxa, I'm assuming you are talking about using Barred Rock hens.

If your Blue Ameraucana is pure, that might work. With black sex links it's all about down color and being able to see the spot. I've never hatched out blue chicks (hopefully next spring. I have a splash pullet I'm waiting to start laying.) I don't know how well the spot will actually show up on a blue chick. But that rooster should be based on Extended Black. Half the chicks from him should be black and you should see the spot easily, but I just don't know about how easily it is to see the spot with a blue chick. I think somebody discussed blue earlier on this thread but I’m not going looking. Best I remember, it was possible but tricky. And you won’t get a lot of meat from a bantam.

I don’t trust genetics on Silkies or EE’s. It just depends on what genetics they have and I really don’t trust either to be pure without knowing something about them. I might need to know quite a bit about them.

I don’t know how Houdans are set up genetically at all. I know they come in mottled and white but I don’t know anything about either Houdan color genetically. If it is a mottled one, it’s got a fair chance of working if it is pure since it should be based on extended black but I just don’t know. And if it is a white one and is based on recessive white, it depends on what is hiding under that white.

Is your Turken pure for one of the recognized colors? If so, it could work. Again I’m not sure about white but the other three should have a good shot if they are pure. If they are hatchery birds, I would not count on them being pure for color genetics.

Not a whole lot of help, I’m afraid. I don’t see Partridge Cochin on Tim’s list and I’m not sure how they are set up genetically. I would expect them to work though and would think they are your best choice.

Good luck! Should be fun!

 

[farmerChef]

Ive used a Mottled Ancona rooster over a Dominique to make sexinks. Chik where easy to tell apart, hen grow up pretty much solid black. Here is one here with a red Sexlink on thier way to a friends house

 

[aoxa]

Jeff, I know I'm being a bit picky, but gold has nothing to do with a black sex link. That's only for a red sex link. You can use a Black Australorp which should have silver as the rooster over a barred hen and it works fine.

Aoxa, I'm assuming you are talking about using Barred Rock hens.

If your Blue Ameraucana is pure, that might work. With black sex links it's all about down color and being able to see the spot. I've never hatched out blue chicks (hopefully next spring. I have a splash pullet I'm waiting to start laying.) I don't know how well the spot will actually show up on a blue chick. But that rooster should be based on Extended Black. Half the chicks from him should be black and you should see the spot easily, but I just don't know about how easily it is to see the spot with a blue chick. I think somebody discussed blue earlier on this thread but I’m not going looking. Best I remember, it was possible but tricky. And you won’t get a lot of meat from a bantam.

I don’t trust genetics on Silkies or EE’s. It just depends on what genetics they have and I really don’t trust either to be pure without knowing something about them. I might need to know quite a bit about them.

I don’t know how Houdans are set up genetically at all. I know they come in mottled and white but I don’t know anything about either Houdan color genetically. If it is a mottled one, it’s got a fair chance of working if it is pure since it should be based on extended black but I just don’t know. And if it is a white one and is based on recessive white, it depends on what is hiding under that white.

Is your Turken pure for one of the recognized colors? If so, it could work. Again I’m not sure about white but the other three should have a good shot if they are pure. If they are hatchery birds, I would not count on them being pure for color genetics.

Not a whole lot of help, I’m afraid. I don’t see Partridge Cochin on Tim’s list and I’m not sure how they are set up genetically. I would expect them to work though and would think they are your best choice.

Good luck! Should be fun!

My blue Ameraucana rooster is a little over 1 pound. My barred rock hens.. Probably 7-8 pounds. Not sure if that mating would be ideal He is pure though.

My silkie rooster does carry Recessive white. He and another coloured hen had quite a few white offspring. So he's out of the question.

Oh I do have a white crested black polish as well...

My Houdans are mottled, and are pure.

Turken's father carried one copy of the barring gene (presented as barred), and his mother looked like a red sex link but was a NN. So again, don't trust him.

I'll give both my Houdan and my Cochin a try. See if they work, and will report back

 

[nicalandia]

Jeff, I know I'm being a bit picky, but gold has nothing to do with a black sex link. That's only for a red sex link. You can use a Black Australorp which should have silver as the rooster over a barred hen and it works fine.

Thats correct, and while Barred rock hens are silver(S/-) and Partridge are gold(s+/s+) one Cant use Extended Black to color sex chicks as both female and male chicks will have black chick down, leaving sex linked barring as a way to sex them, hens will lack the headspot and males will have the headspot..

 

[LAFreewayChickens]

There was some discussion on this thread a while back about both crele and using Delawares in sexlink crosses. I just hatched out gold/red sexlink crosses of crele roo (gold) over Delaware (silver) hen.

I thought the results would be more wild type with the gold/silver expressing on the background, but they are almost lacking in additional markings. Perhaps the colombian inhibits the stripes. Here is a photo of the first chicks that hatched from this cross.

My evaluation is that the middle one is female and the other 2 are male. (But I welcome your feedback).