Sex- linked Information

[nicalandia]

seems to me all birds with even 1 barring gene shows the effects.

this is correct, except on self white birds(dominant whites, or recessive white)

 

[aoxa]

this is correct, except on self white birds(dominant whites, or recessive white)

This is something I didn't know until I ended up with a few random white chicks, when all of them were sired by a barred rock rooster. Was surprising! What's cool is that they do have ghost barring.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Yeah the barring can be present even of you can't see it. I've read that one trick to get a white show bird even whiter is to add barring. I don't always believe everything I read so I'm not going to say I know that for a fact, just something interesting I've read.

A Delaware is an example of barring on silver. You cannot see the barring on the white portion but you can on the black portions. It's not just recessive or dominant white that can mask barring, silver can do it too. But I'm pretty sure you can't get an all-white bird just with silver and without either dominant or recessive white present. With just silver you should always have some feathers that show the barring, though sometiimes you may have to pay attention.

That red sex link rooster (SS over a Delaware hen) I showed a photo of a couple of pages back is an example. He is barred and you can see it, but you have to look. The barring does not stand out like it would on a good barred rock.

I've got silver and barring in my flock, no recessive or dominant white. With some of my barnyard mixes I have to look at the individual feathers to be sure if they are carrying barring or not.

 

[catdaddyfro]

Yeah the barring can be present even of you can't see it. I've read that one trick to get a white show bird even whiter is to add barring. I don't always believe everything I read so I'm not going to say I know that for a fact, just something interesting I've read.
A Delaware is an example of barring on silver. You cannot see the barring on the white portion but you can on the black portions. It's not just recessive or dominant white that can mask barring, silver can do it too. But I'm pretty sure you can't get an all-white bird just with silver and without either dominant or recessive white present. With just silver you should always have some feathers that show the barring, though sometiimes you may have to pay attention.
That red sex link rooster (SS over a Delaware hen) I showed a photo of a couple of pages back is an example. He is barred and you can see it, but you have to look. The barring does not stand out like it would on a good barred rock.
I've got silver and barring in my flock, no recessive or dominant white. With some of my barnyard mixes I have to look at the individual feathers to be sure if they are carrying barring or not.

I do too ridgerunner mine is a couple of generations back from Delaware x EE cross=Delaweggers LOL this is a strong barring gene I'm still getting a high percentage of the "ghost barring" cropping out 2 and three generations later with random barnyard mixes(my swampers) as I often refer them as LOL

Jeff

 

[LAFreewayChickens]

A Delaware is an example of barring on silver. You cannot see the barring on the white portion but you can on the black portions. It's not just recessive or dominant white that can mask barring, silver can do it too. But I'm pretty sure you can't get an all-white bird just with silver and without either dominant or recessive white present. With just silver you should always have some feathers that show the barring, though sometiimes you may have to pay attention.
That red sex link rooster (SS over a Delaware hen) I showed a photo of a couple of pages back is an example. He is barred and you can see it, but you have to look. The barring does not stand out like it would on a good barred rock.
I've got silver and barring in my flock, no recessive or dominant white. With some of my barnyard mixes I have to look at the individual feathers to be sure if they are carrying barring or not.

I don't believe it is the silver in a Delaware that makes for white despite the barring, it is the columbian gene (which is why you DO see black/dark barring on the heck hackles, tail, wings)

 

[Arielle]

It is all in the details. lol

I learned about dom white the hard way. But it was interesting as it could be applied to other lines. I bred a blue ameraucana to a white easter egger and other "red" easter eggers. The hen was actually a white with red tinting evenly colored beak to tail. From the offsping 1 male was white and as it matured with each molt, black flecks appeared, and the eyes are blue-gray. I finally understood one of the leghorn colors as they are listed with Ideal: a cross bred of a white and a black barred = white with black flecks. ANd how dominant white can mess up the base colors. Lesson learned. NO dominant white in sex link breeding for good reason. LOL THe young cockerel sure is pretty though.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: If it were not silver, the bird would have a gold/buff/red body. But you are correct that Co is needed.

 

[tadkerson]

I don't believe it is the silver in a Delaware that makes for white despite the barring, it is the columbian gene (which is why you DO see black/dark barring on the heck hackles, tail, wings)

It is the silver allele that is making the bird white. The columbian gene removes the black from the body and wings of the wheaten male . The silver gene colors in the areas where the black has been removed. If the bird was gold the gold allele would fill in the areas. On wheaten females, the salmon and some black are removed by the columbian gene.

Tim

 

[Zootopia]

Ok so I can use my BLRW roo on my cuckoo maran, barred rock and delaware hens.
How about my blu or splash maran roo?

 

[nicalandia]

Ok so I can use my BLRW roo on my cuckoo maran, barred rock and delaware hens.
How about my blu or splash maran roo?

yes, Blue Laced Red Wyandotte over a barred rock hen/Delaware hen will give you sex linkes, the boys will be sex linked barred and the hens will not..

you can use a blue/splash maran roo over any BR/Delaware hen and get the same sex linked results