She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

[WalnutHill]

There are several schools of thought about that. The predator that kills one chicken will be back. So, you can turn your coop/run into Fort Knox. Or you can wait for the predator and then take him out. Problem solved for the short term, until a new predator moves in to take over the hole left in the ecosystem by the one you just took out. It becomes a repeating cycle. I'm of the philosophy: I'll do what I can to keep a strong perimiter, but ultimately, if it messes with my birds, I'm gonna take it out.

It takes longer to fill the hole in the ecosystem than it does for a persistent varmint to find its way in.

Short term, problem solved. Long term, just keep solving the same problem.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Good boy. Was his daddy southern?

Oh lord no. I took his father fishing when we were together and we went out in a canoe. I ended up rowing cause he drove me nuts because he couldn't master it, and then I baited his hook for him cause he'd never done it. He does go out to "hunt". I don't think he's ever shot anything though. He's a black belt in karate and these days looks like a thug, but it's superficial...lol

 

[scflock]

Oh lord no. I took his father fishing when we were together and we went out in a canoe. I ended up rowing cause he drove me nuts because he couldn't master it, and then I baited his hook for him cause he'd never done it. He does go out to "hunt". I don't think he's ever shot anything though. He's a black belt in karate and these days looks like a thug, but it's superficial...lol

Probably because he had no hair on his chest and a mullet

 

[WalnutHill]

Oh lord no. I took his father fishing when we were together and we went out in a canoe. I ended up rowing cause he drove me nuts because he couldn't master it, and then I baited his hook for him cause he'd never done it. He does go out to "hunt". I don't think he's ever shot anything though. He's a black belt in karate and these days looks like a thug, but it's superficial...lol

Well there was the problem...you don't row a canoe!

Nothing wrong about helping someone bait a hook who never did. I've been fishing all my life and had no idea how to rig for sailfish.

Lots of people hunt for the day in the woods rather than for the kill. I will take one if there is room in the freezer, but if I am full up on venison I just enjoy the day in the woods. Unless it's 15 degrees, then I enjoy the morning in bed.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

There are several schools of thought about that. The predator that kills one chicken will be back. So, you can turn your coop/run into Fort Knox. Or you can wait for the predator and then take him out. Problem solved for the short term, until a new predator moves in to take over the hole left in the ecosystem by the one you just took out. It becomes a repeating cycle. I'm of the philosophy: I'll do what I can to keep a strong perimiter, but ultimately, if it messes with my birds, I'm gonna take it out.

Which, if and when it happens, will probably be the point I decided that I can off the creature...lol

You take a couple of fluffy, crying babies and end their life, you may change your mind. Much easier to be thankful for the healthy ones and let nature take it's course on the others

Easier, yes, but in my mind it's not about what's easier. If I have to toughen up and deal with that, then that's what I have to do, but my soft side (yes, I have one besides the few extra pounds in my butt and hips) will not let me sit back and do nothing. I believe everything deserves a chance, even if it makes it more unpleasant for me in the end. Every one that I will have saved by intervention would confirm my belief that it's worth it. Now, if I was assisting and never having one make it, or having to cull everyone I assisted, then, maybe I'd have to rethink my decision. But as long as there are assists that are happy endings it will out weigh the unpleasant part.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Probably because he had no hair on his chest and a mullet

LOL. He had closely trimmed hair, he has a lightly hairy chest and he had a closely trimmed goatee. Now, it's all long and pitiful and he shaves his head.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Well there was the problem...you don't row a canoe!

Nothing wrong about helping someone bait a hook who never did. I've been fishing all my life and had no idea how to rig for sailfish.

Lots of people hunt for the day in the woods rather than for the kill. I will take one if there is room in the freezer, but if I am full up on venison I just enjoy the day in the woods. Unless it's 15 degrees, then I enjoy the morning in bed.

You do if you want to get out in the water. You "paddle" it.
I think the only interest in hunting for him is he goes with his father and it's about the only time his father ever really opens up and he feels close to him. His dad was never a verbally or physically affectionate man so it's the one "thing" they have.
If you saw him, you'd understand the irony of having to bait his hook...lol

 

[MunsterChicks]

My understanding of the line breeding/inbreeding to date has been that you can breed siblings, it's not as desirable and you don't want to keep breeding siblings generation after generation. It is more beneficial to linebreed father to daughter/son to mother and breed best of back to father and this can be done for more generations providing you are taking the best and seperating out undesirable traits.

Yes, we've had our share of "dog flippers" in our area. We have a couple animal rights group that will publically verbally go after these people if they see their ads, so we usually get an idea of who is doing it.

Funny thing. I can't invision myself killing an animal, but I'd probably change my tune if I had something going after my chickens...lol I was talking to my father the other day about predators and made the comment that when you raise chickens, loosing one here and there to predators is to be expected and that if you can't handle the loss then you have no business keeping chickens. I looked at my son and said, "Right? We can handle it if something happens and a predator gets a chicken, can't we?" He as serious as can be says, "Yup, but then we are gonna kill that animal that gets our chicken." lol

Your son sounds like a great kid! He's right though, smart boy

If it came down to it, I THINK I'd rather have to cull then not give a chick all the help I could before that. The thought of not helping a chick that could have made it and been perfectly healthy (like my little Lucy) is just more of a catalyst to me then trying and failing and having to deal with not succeeding. And if neccessary I do have people that would do the job for me.

I agree, if I see somethig struggling Inwould rather try to help it. Even if I have to cull it in the long run, I know I tried to give it the best
chance.

There are several schools of thought about that.  The predator that kills one chicken will be back.  So, you can turn your coop/run into Fort Knox.  Or you can wait for the predator and then take him out.  Problem solved for the short term, until a new predator moves in to take over the hole left in the ecosystem by the one you just took out.  It becomes a repeating cycle.  I'm of the philosophy:  I'll do what I can to keep a strong perimiter, but ultimately, if it messes with my birds, I'm gonna take it out.

I'm sure I'll be the same way.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Your son sounds like a great kid! He's right though, smart boy

I agree, if I see somethig struggling Inwould rather try to help it. Even if I have to cull it in the long run, I know I tried to give it the best
chance.
I'm sure I'll be the same way.

He's a blast. Awesome kid. Almost everybody loves him on contact. Most of the stores around here we go in, the cashiers just love seeing him come in cause he's such a social butterfly and he's so funny. He keeps everyone laughing. In one store, he took a plastic robot up to the counter and looks at the young cashier and says, "Excuse me, can you tell me if this has any articulation?" The look on her face was priceless. You could tell she didn't know what he ment. I had to explain. She and the lady ahead of us got a good laugh. He has a pretty good vocabulary. My boy is the best thing that ever happened to me.

 

[WVduckchick]

only made it about half way had a business call. I'm posting this for WV also egg quiz what kind of egg is the top egg It won't hatch

Aww that's such a pretty BCM, no wonder she wanted you to take a pic of it. Well, other than the main reason...
And the first one? Hard-boiled??

I have to say I would not do it breed from the same hatch inbreeding can cause problems

I wondered about that also, but I know my eggs came from 6 hens, so they might not be related... but I guess its still possible that 1 hen could have laid 2 of my chicks... So should I just not hatch any of them?