She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

[kwhites634]

My first broody, the banty did wonderful. All three hatched out healthy. The night before, when I checked and saw internal pips I shut her in the cage she was nesting in and she was happy as pie. Her's are 2 weeks old tomorrow. It is so cute seeing them out with all the rest running around. For the most part all the others are pretty good with them and my spitz roo is wonderful! He's very "protective" and keeps an eye on everyone.

My spitz broody I tried moving to the kennel to get her of the main nest last night because both of her eggs were internally pipped. After I moved her she went right back to zombie mode, so I was hoping natural instincts would keep her on them, but at dawn I went out to check and both eggs were really cold. When I opened the kennel she went right back to the main nest. I candled and neither moved but I put them back under her.




I rechecked after they warmed back up and there is now movement in both, so it's a waiting game. It was literally just getting light when I went out this morning, so I am hoping she wasn't off more than a couple hours. My main concern is what the cold would do with the membranes and air supply left in the air sac considering they were internally pipped before 6pm yesterday. Their repiratory system should have slowed when they got cold, so theoretically they should have been using less oxygen, but it also means they were using oxygen with no normal progression, so I don't know how it will go. All I can do now is sit back and let nature/fate/God decide which way it will go. Thinking if they make it and hatch and momma takes care of them and doesn't mess this up of naming them "Frosty" and "Chilly".

That's like the first foal ever born here. I had the mare locked in the barn, knowing she was close. Had a storm that night and she broke out of the barn. Found her out along the pasture fence with the foal mostly out, in the rain. The sire was a WV horse named Hillbilly Raven. I named the foal, a yellow filly, Hillbilly Rainstorm; called her Stormy

 

[meganhundley]

Yay!! You'll have fluffnuggets by morn!!

Sorry, I kept missing your posts... been sick last couple days and really out of it... :/

That's ok, I miss posts all the time, lol

 

[meganhundley]

Well, I don't think that we will be having our other two hatch. I should have left her alone. Cause at some point she got off the eggs and let them go cold. Cold cold. Got up early to check her and the eggs were cold and I see no movement at all. As soon as I opened the kennel she went back to the nest. I put them back under her just in case, but I saw absolutely no movement and they were so active last night. I could just kill her, and I am so mad at myself for not just leaving things alone.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for your 2, I hope they make it, stranger things have happened

 

[meganhundley]

For inquiring minds... 1 IS OUT!!! And a 2nd is on its way and there's also a third pip!!

 

[rossfam06]

For inquiring minds... 1 IS OUT!!! And a 2nd is on its way and there's also a third pip!!

Whoop whoop!!!!

 

[meganhundley]

@ ross: I think the problem with my hygrometer was tge probe was right under 1 of the vent holes and I noticed it only happend when our little box fan was on so apparently it created just enough air flow to pull air out of the incubator through the vent hole. Once I moved the probe the reading went up

 

[rossfam06]

@ ross: I think the problem with my hygrometer was tge probe was right under 1 of the vent holes and I noticed it only happend when our little box fan was on so apparently it created just enough air flow to pull air out of the incubator through the vent hole. Once I moved the probe the reading went up

Perfect! !! Glad it was an as fix.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Glad there is still movement. Maybe they weren't as cold inside the egg as it feels like to us. Frosty and Chilly would be cute names.

I'm a bit confused though. You moved the nest to the kennel, but I guess you didn't shut her in it? You were just moving her to get her off the main nest, so the others would leave her alone?

Every day the other hens move her off the nest so they can lay there. Obstinate things. Apparently my nest boxes were never good enough, because once the first one decided to use that spot the others followed suite. Every day I move her and remove the extra eggs and let her stay there. BUT my concern has been once they start pipping if the others move her to lay they will hurt the pippers/hatchers, so like Chibi, I wanted her in a safe enclosed place for the actual hatch so she wouldn't be moved off by the others. Late last night when she was in zombie mode I moved her to the large kennel I have in there. Got the eggs back under her and she zonked right back out. Yes, she was shut in there. I was hoping since the eggs were this close, natural instinct would keep her on the nest. This morning when I went to open the coops and check she was off the nest and the eggs were cold. As soon as I opened the kennel she went running to the nesting area and resettled there. After I candled and found no movement I put them back under her. I'll just have to keep a close eye on the others through out the day to make sure they aren't moving her and messing with the eggs. It's the only alternative I have at this point, that I can think of anyway.

That's like the first foal ever born here. I had the mare locked in the barn, knowing she was close. Had a storm that night and she broke out of the barn. Found her out along the pasture fence with the foal mostly out, in the rain. The sire was a WV horse named Hillbilly Raven. I named the foal, a yellow filly, Hillbilly Rainstorm; called her Stormy

That's cute.

 

[RubyNala97]

He probably owns his stock, but the birds themselves haven't been domesticated. Domestication takes years and years. For example, a tiger can be born in a zoo and live in the zoo and have its own cubs in the zoo, but the tiger and its cubs aren't domesticated, even though they have been in captivity their whole lives. Same with the mandarins - we can own them and breed them and they've been in captivity their whole lives, but they are not domesticated

I was trying to think of how to word this and just couldn't do it! Lol!! You said it perfectly!!

I just took the boot off. There is a bend in its toe but it is 100% better from the curl. Little one is walking around just fine. Do I need to put one back on or worry about the toe curling again? She's 4 days old today.

You can take a toothpick and cut it to be the length of the toe and then attached it with a thin-cut piece of tape. I will try to find a pic.

So, Lady Grey skipped laying yesterday... this morn, she left 2!!!

That's great!!

My first broody moved to the cage a couple days before cause the second broody kicked her off the nest and even now 2 weeks later she takes the babies back into the open cage at bedtime. It's so cute. Good news! I just went back out and tried the move her again and she's so out of it that she let me move her to the kennel and stayed on the eggs! I was able to shut her in. I just hope when she wakes up in the morning she doesn't get all upset and stressed and not sit. They should be externally pipping by morning-noon I would think.

Well, I don't think that we will be having our other two hatch. I should have left her alone. Cause at some point she got off the eggs and let them go cold. Cold cold. Got up early to check her and the eggs were cold and I see no movement at all. As soon as I opened the kennel she went back to the nest. I put them back under her just in case, but I saw absolutely no movement and they were so active last night. I could just kill her, and I am so mad at myself for not just leaving things alone.

They will be ok!! Remember, I had the heater go out in my incubator and it was blowing cold air on internal and external pips! I was so worried but the all hatched except one. So just check them tonight!

Just the fact that you even know that a broody egg was internally pipped proves that you never heard a word I said Good luck on those 2

She heard you...just chose not to listen!!

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I'll keep my fingers crossed for your 2, I hope they make it, stranger things have happened

For inquiring minds... 1 IS OUT!!! And a 2nd is on its way and there's also a third pip!!

TY. Rooting for you too!! Come on babies!!

Perfect! !! Glad it was an as fix.

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