She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

[scflock]

Haha yes yes yes! Beware!

 

[WalnutHill]

Was the Cock the white colored chicken? It could be double barred maybe. Just digging into some genetics stuff.

Sex-linked dilution BSd Females that are hemizygous for BSd (having one BSd gene) have light blue and barred plumage as do the heterozygous males, however, homozygous males show a dosage effect and are essentially white. These homozygous males resemble dominant whites but differ in that they are epistatic to pheomelanin while dominant white is not.​

http://sellers.kippenjungle.nl/page3.html

The way I read that the rooster could have two copies of barring and look white. But then all of the pullets he sires should have one copy of barring.


Edited to add this:

Pattern gene Pg
Dominant. This is the pattern gene which, together with other genes is responsible for the patterns of plumage. The pattern gene doesn’t seem to express in the absence of Ml in combination with some of the E locus alleles. See text. The pattern gene with the Db and Co Columbian-like restrictors is believed to be responsible for autosomal barring.​

Since one of the parents seem to have the columbian gene. So you could have the pattern gene Pg, Db and Co and that would lead to barring regardless of sex.

And one more:

Autosomal barring Ab Non-sex-linked barring. Sometimes called 'parallel pencilling'. This is not a real gene, rather autosomal barring is due to combinations of Pg, Co, Db with eb, ER, and ebc. See text.​

Looks to me like Co with Pg and Db since one of the parents is is columbian pattern. Sorry, just rambling.

I have been spending my time anticipating the turkey color results, so I know where you are going with this. I love the "outliers" since I am not breeding to SOP. I have one Bourbon Red turkey with a white throat and breast. I am going to see what happens if I cross up a white turkey with my Golden Narragansett, which has dominant Narragansett plus a red gene.

Yes, the roo is the one that looks like a Light Brahma with the Columbian type pattern.

 

[WalnutHill]

The ISA browns probably provided the Db (brown) gene that mixed up with his Pg and Co gene to unleash a barred chick. That's awesome. If I understand it correctly the Pg gene does not show up without the

Ml, so maybe the ISA carried that too?​

The barring is black and white with just the slightest brown leakage on the shoulder.

I just like playing with my chicken crayons

But wait...Barred Rock roos have close, narrow barring and hens have softer, broader bars...

 

[rossfam06]

Was the Cock the white colored chicken? It could be double barred maybe. Just digging into some genetics stuff.

Sex-linked dilution

B[SUP]Sd[/SUP]

Females that are hemizygous for B[SUP]Sd[/SUP] (having one B[SUP]Sd[/SUP] gene) have light blue and barred plumage as do the heterozygous males, however, homozygous males show a dosage effect and are essentially white. These homozygous males resemble dominant whites but differ in that they are epistatic to pheomelanin while dominant white is not.

http://sellers.kippenjungle.nl/page3.html

The way I read that the rooster could have two copies of barring and look white. But then all of the pullets he sires should have one copy of barring.


Edited to add this: 

Pattern gene

Pg

Dominant. This is the pattern gene which, together with other genes is responsible for the patterns of plumage. The pattern gene doesn’t seem to express in the absence of Ml in combination with some of the E locus alleles. See text. The pattern gene with the Db and Co Columbian-like restrictors is believed to be responsible for autosomal barring.

Since one of the parents seem to have the columbian gene. So you could have the pattern gene Pg, Db and Co and that would lead to barring regardless of sex.

And one more:

Autosomal barring

Ab

Non-sex-linked barring. Sometimes called 'parallel pencilling'. This is not a real gene, rather autosomal barring is due to combinations of Pg, Co, Db with e[SUP]b[/SUP], E[SUP]R[/SUP], and e[SUP]bc[/SUP]. See text.

Looks to me like Co with Pg and Db since one of the parents is is columbian pattern. Sorry, just rambling.

I really need to learn this. In high school gents was my favorite. But it's been so long that I need a refresher eap for genetics and traits.

 

[scflock]

I really need to learn this. In high school gents was my favorite. But it's been so long that I need a refresher eap for genetics and traits.

It drives me nuts, and I don't understand it. I'm going to have to learn, because now I have 2 breeds that I really need to keep up with. I know what I think looks good, but Sidewing can attest, I don't know Jack

 

[WalnutHill]

Kippen's stuff is good. Porter's linked to his turkey info.

Here is the Kippen chicken calculator:

http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm

Or even better, in English!

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruisingKipFlexTree.html

So my crosses this year included Golden Narragansett tom crossed with Broad Breasted Bronze hen. I got Narri and Golden Narri "well endowed" poults.

Kippen's calc shows that I should expect:

Male Bronze
Male Red-Bronze
Female Narragansett
Female Golden Narragansett

Next year the same Golden Narri tom will also be put over a Broad Breasted white hen. The color results are amazing: exactly the same as with the BBB hen!

 

[AmyLynn2374]

It's still young, but I think it's a pullet.





It has come across from Brahma and Cochin, so I'd say yes, and you would get olive eggs!

And here is no-neck now:

Still doesn't have much of a neck, but still cute....lol

It drives me nuts, and I don't understand it. I'm going to have to learn, because now I have 2 breeds that I really need to keep up with. I know what I think looks good, but Sidewing can attest, I don't know Jack

I did in highschool. Anything science related-except chemistry I excelled at. Bio especially and I could do Punnett squares and all that..now I'm just like:

 

[FridayYet]

So, I have a question for you guys. Lots of you-most of you-use a screen name far from your original name, but you sign posts/pms with your real name or you have your real name listed on your profile info. So, would you guys rather be called by your real name or your screen name??? I've been curious for a while now, when someone signs posts/pms especially, with their "real" name if that's what they'd be prefered to be called. I know personally I prefer Amy to Amy Lynn, but don't really care, either way it is my name...lol

I like my screen name and use it on other social media. Friday is fine for me, but if you use my real name it's OK. Not like it's hidden, anyways.

We scare you? What about you and Friday?

Best.Team.Ever.

Seems we have lost that spontaneous, tolerant tone that we once had on this thread. I am very sad to see it go. The random swirls of topic with everyone's life is amazingly refreshing.

It will be back.

Thanks, that is one of my first batch of Easter Eggers in April. I had a hard time deciding which photo to use. This chick was SUCH a fuzzball!

This picture looks like an animated Pixar version of a real chick! Love that picture!

It drives me nuts, and I don't understand it. I'm going to have to learn, because now I have 2 breeds that I really need to keep up with. I know what I think looks good, but Sidewing can attest, I don't know Jack

This is Jack. He's not too bright and his neck is a Little short, but he's a sweetheart. Too much white right now, but he's only 3 months so give him time. Nice yellow legs, good brow, Kind of molting so his topline looks funny.

Now you know Jack

 

[BYC910]

Yea!!!! I woke up this morning to 5 babies and 2 zippers...as if right now I have 7 chicken out and one is still zipping. No more pippers at this time.

might as well start here congrats on the 7

as I read on maybe there will be more I have 15 pages to read to catch up since I missed so much I'm going to read them all

 

[BlackwoodHollow]

Yea!!!! I woke up this morning to 5 babies and 2 zippers...as if right now I have 7 chicken out and one is still zipping. No more pippers at this time.

Woo-hoo!

Congrats!

Update on my bra egg!

The egg has hatched with the cutest little chick inside! Was totally worth it! It wasn't doing much last night but this morning it got back into action. It started off slowly but in the last 30 minuets zipped right round and popped out! I took it out my bra once it was fully zipped to give it room to push itself out. It hatched on a towel in my lap. I've made a sling with a scarf and am keeping it on me to keep it warm. I'm going to put it back with the mother in a few days, as soon as it's up on it's feet and able to keep up with the others. This has been a truly weird and amazing experience! And i would totally do it again if i needed to! The chick needed 2 more days of incubation when the mother hen decided she'd had enough. I have saved a life and i was so worth it. Little effort from me with the best possible result! Love it!

That's amazzzzingg. Would love to see some pics.

Oh my it sure does take some keeping up with this thread!!
Just dropping by to say the little polish has done it!! She has hatched all 4 eggs off and is doing a great job with them. Had a couple of instances where she has trodden on them but that's to be expected as she can't see anyway. As this is my first broody hen it's a pleasure to watch things done naturally. How she keeps them in check and has shown them how to eat and drink. It really is a wonder to behold!!

That is frikkin' adorable!! She looks like a caterpillar!

SC and "the bro" hatch.