She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

[MunsterChicks]

I kept replying to her ad through the link, so she wouldn't get my real email address. I drove her nuts for 3 weeks
The failed hatches is another reason I don't want to sell them. I sell them all as eating eggs, mix fertiles with girls only  eggs, and don't tell anyone. If they want to try and incubate, that's up to them

Some people!

Thanks for the information everyone! This is all great to hear, even the bad stuff. I like being prepared and hearing from all sides, I'm taking in all the knowledge I can!

BYC- good to know! Thank you.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Oh, gotchya.

I couldn't kill an adorable chick unless it was sick. I just couldnt do it. I'm glad I mis-understood, but that's sad about the big breeders.

I couldn't either. And then I'd still have to call someone else to do it. I don't think I could.

 

[scflock]

I couldn't either. And then I'd still have to call someone else to do it. I don't think I could.

You keep assisting hatches and eventually it will happen. I wasn't always like this

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I would still keep the best rooster and any pullets from this hatch. I didn't mean to imply that sibling mating was totally unacceptable. Many people start their flocks that way, but it will enhance any undesireable traits. Make sure you want to sell fertile eggs, too. I had a woman call me and give me this sob story about how she just wanted a few polish eggs for her broody cochin so she could keep them as pets. I was very sympathetic to her, sold her 2 eggs for $4, then gave her 4 extras because I wasn't certain about fertility. 3 days later, an ad popped up on Craigslist that said "hopefully a few rare white crested black polish" 10 miles from me. I was boiling mad. I refuse to sell fertile eggs now because of it. I don't need the competition. If she had bought straight run chicks like me, and put the work into it that I did, I would have been fine with it, but she was selling MY eggs to MY customers

My understanding of the line breeding/inbreeding to date has been that you can breed siblings, it's not as desirable and you don't want to keep breeding siblings generation after generation. It is more beneficial to linebreed father to daughter/son to mother and breed best of back to father and this can be done for more generations providing you are taking the best and seperating out undesirable traits.

Oh heck no! I would be ****** too. That's a good point, then you'll also probably get the people who have failed hatches, and blame it on you and claim the eggs weren't fertile.

If someone did that to me I would want to flip on her! But at the same time, is it even worth it? Ugh people have some nerve.

People on CL I heard do that with dogs too, they take free dogs and then turn around a re-sell them.

Yes, we've had our share of "dog flippers" in our area. We have a couple animal rights group that will publically verbally go after these people if they see their ads, so we usually get an idea of who is doing it.

I have no problem culling a sick chick. I come from a long line of hunters, and my husband is too. The killing of animals doesn't upset me, especially when sick (or for good purpose such as food) and if a raccoon or animal messes with my chickens I'll be out there with my crossbow in a second. A sick animal though, I just feel, is better off being humanely killed/culled quickly rather than suffering. I agree I wouldn't kill/cull a chick for not having the traits or typical standards of a particular breed.

Funny thing. I can't invision myself killing an animal, but I'd probably change my tune if I had something going after my chickens...lol I was talking to my father the other day about predators and made the comment that when you raise chickens, loosing one here and there to predators is to be expected and that if you can't handle the loss then you have no business keeping chickens. I looked at my son and said, "Right? We can handle it if something happens and a predator gets a chicken, can't we?" He as serious as can be says, "Yup, but then we are gonna kill that animal that gets our chicken." lol

 

[WalnutHill]

I would think the LG would at least make a decent hatcher, I just don't think I could trust it for the entire period. Maybe you should throw a few hickory chips in there

Not a bad idea. If I am gonna cook them, I may as well smoke them.

 

[scflock]

My understanding of the line breeding/inbreeding to date has been that you can breed siblings, it's not as desirable and you don't want to keep breeding siblings generation after generation. It is more beneficial to linebreed father to daughter/son to mother and breed best of back to father and this can be done for more generations providing you are taking the best and seperating out undesirable traits.

Yes, we've had our share of "dog flippers" in our area. We have a couple animal rights group that will publically verbally go after these people if they see their ads, so we usually get an idea of who is doing it.

Funny thing. I can't invision myself killing an animal, but I'd probably change my tune if I had something going after my chickens...lol I was talking to my father the other day about predators and made the comment that when you raise chickens, loosing one here and there to predators is to be expected and that if you can't handle the loss then you have no business keeping chickens. I looked at my son and said, "Right? We can handle it if something happens and a predator gets a chicken, can't we?" He as serious as can be says, "Yup, but then we are gonna kill that animal that gets our chicken." lol

Good boy. Was his daddy southern?

 

[AmyLynn2374]

You keep assisting hatches and eventually it will happen. I wasn't always like this

If it came down to it, I THINK I'd rather have to cull then not give a chick all the help I could before that. The thought of not helping a chick that could have made it and been perfectly healthy (like my little Lucy) is just more of a catalyst to me then trying and failing and having to deal with not succeeding. And if neccessary I do have people that would do the job for me.

 

[WalnutHill]

My Little Oven was at 104.8 after only 3 and a half hours away. Gotta love it...

I have the STC1000 in charge now. It hurts to see 40.6 on the display (and on the Spot Check as well).

 

[lazy gardener]

My understanding of the line breeding/inbreeding to date has been that you can breed siblings, it's not as desirable and you don't want to keep breeding siblings generation after generation. It is more beneficial to linebreed father to daughter/son to mother and breed best of back to father and this can be done for more generations providing you are taking the best and seperating out undesirable traits.

Yes, we've had our share of "dog flippers" in our area. We have a couple animal rights group that will publically verbally go after these people if they see their ads, so we usually get an idea of who is doing it.

Funny thing. I can't invision myself killing an animal, but I'd probably change my tune if I had something going after my chickens...lol I was talking to my father the other day about predators and made the comment that when you raise chickens, loosing one here and there to predators is to be expected and that if you can't handle the loss then you have no business keeping chickens. I looked at my son and said, "Right? We can handle it if something happens and a predator gets a chicken, can't we?" He as serious as can be says, "Yup, but then we are gonna kill that animal that gets our chicken." lol

There are several schools of thought about that. The predator that kills one chicken will be back. So, you can turn your coop/run into Fort Knox. Or you can wait for the predator and then take him out. Problem solved for the short term, until a new predator moves in to take over the hole left in the ecosystem by the one you just took out. It becomes a repeating cycle. I'm of the philosophy: I'll do what I can to keep a strong perimiter, but ultimately, if it messes with my birds, I'm gonna take it out.

 

[scflock]

If it came down to it, I THINK I'd rather have to cull then not give a chick all the help I could before that. The thought of not helping a chick that could have made it and been perfectly healthy (like my little Lucy) is just more of a catalyst to me then trying and failing and having to deal with not succeeding. And if neccessary I do have people that would do the job for me.

You take a couple of fluffy, crying babies and end their life, you may change your mind. Much easier to be thankful for the healthy ones and let nature take it's course on the others