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[FridayYet]

I'm dreading the day I have to make a choice between Jack and Koriza. Koriza is friendly to me, laid back, has a great brow and upright stature and is kinda alpha (he is the only one crowing) but Jack has better coloring, seems beefier, a little more aloof, and I've already seen him jump the Legbars a few times. (Almost thought about putting a few of their eggs in the incubator to see how an Orloff/Legbar cross looks like

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Of course I still have my little Wheaten Ameraucana and a little Orloff boy growing up.

Need to seriously think about a sub-pen for the Wheaten trio. Think the little Orloff Psycho Nugget will definitely need to go.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Is he dominant or aggressive towards you?

Which one? Neither of my roos in that coop (Gibbs or Elvis) are people aggressive. Elvis is the more skittish -don't want contact-non challenging roo. He's the one that was attacked. Gibbs is the let's try to mate anything, I'm the main roo in the coop. He's not human aggressive and until today I have never seen anything more than the occasional, I'm a roo, fluff up my feathers "do you want some of this" guy stuff, but I've never seen him outright attack my other roo or attempt to corner him. It was a total surprise.

My co pilot and I treked an hour 1 way to see the avian vet about his bumble. Turns out to be a septic joint

but got some antibiotics to hopefully help (open to administration suggestions). Then it was nap time on the way home after snacking on some organic kale & beet greens

Awe. Hope he feels better. That's cute.

not try will if a lot are kept in the same pen they pick the weakest one and keep at it until they kill it . then start on the next one.in a free range setting with a lot of chickens the dominant roster will have the most hens and so on and so on they protect their flock and fight but rarely fatal .the pecking has been established .

I have no question Gibbs woud have killed Elvis if I hadn't interveined.




The "scalping" goes all the way around.

Now here's my question. Is there anything other than keeping it clean and using antibiotic ointment on it that I can do? Is there something I can or should give it for pain? He is doing seemingly well. He doesn't act like he's on his way out.

 

[WalnutHill]

Wow. Got a chance to hop on after arriving at my destination before heading out for dinner. This thread has already been all over the place!

To top off my already long drive, I got pulled over (and ticketed). One of those cases where I was one in a group of slightly faster cruisers, but my Charger got picked out of the lineup over a F150 Raptor, a BMW, and a Crossfire...bad luck of the draw. Sigh.

I have to get serious and get to work but it was nice to catch up...

I have two roos that were hatched and raised together last spring tossed in with my flock of red sex links. There are currently about 150 hens, and the Light Brahma cross roo is the dominant roo. Last year they sparred but once they got it sorted out the Salmon Faverolle/Ameraucana roo keeps his own subset of hens and doesn't often dare to try to grab any of the other girls. He also doesn't crow much.

I had my spare Narragansett tom in that coop all summer, that changed the dynamics. The Light Brahma roo challenged the tom all the time, the roo is about 9 pounds and the tom about 20, that roo would fight until his face was bloody. The tom would just grab his comb and shove his face on the floor. Now that I sold the tom with the Narragansett hen, the roo has been getting pushy and yesterday when I grabbed a "disrupter" hen, one who runs like her tail is on fire all the time, he challenged me. I just spread my arms and walked him backwards right out of the coop, then went on with tossing her in the feed room for one of the nice Chinese ladies who buy my culls. He just gave me the evil eye but stepped away when I walked toward him.

There is a young roo in the other pen, an EE son of SF, who is getting serious about his crowing and the big guy now wants a piece of him. And the young roo is challenging the turkey jakes through the fence. Saturday he will have the opportunity to show what he's made of, once the broilers are gone I will be opening the doors and the youngsters will integrate into the turkey pen as the turkeys need the space.

I still have a small group of younger chickens that need protection and I am trying to figure out where to stick them...and one turkey in the house who is only a week old.

 

[WalnutHill]

Which one? Neither of my roos in that coop (Gibbs or Elvis) are people aggressive. Elvis is the more skittish -don't want contact-non challenging roo. He's the one that was attacked. Gibbs is the let's try to mate anything, I'm the main roo in the coop. He's not human aggressive and until today I have never seen anything more than the occasional, I'm a roo, fluff up my feathers "do you want some of this" guy stuff, but I've never seen him outright attack my other roo or attempt to corner him. It was a total surprise.
Awe. Hope he feels better. That's cute.

I have no question Gibbs woud have killed Elvis if I hadn't interveined.

The "scalping" goes all the way around.

Now here's my question. Is there anything other than keeping it clean and using antibiotic ointment on it that I can do? Is there something I can or should give it for pain? He is doing seemingly well. He doesn't act like he's on his way out.

Keep bugs off and ointment on. I like Blue-Kote, it covers the red when you put him back in, but give him several days to scab up first.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Keep bugs off and ointment on. I like Blue-Kote, it covers the red when you put him back in, but give him several days to scab up first.

Thank you. That's what I planned on doing. He's in the cage inside the house at the moment. I want to put up a temp little fence tomorrow so he can get out and stretch his legs for a little bit during the day. Is Blue-Kote anything that they sell at TSC or possibly a feed store? I've never heard of it.

 

[Ravynscroft]

Which one? Neither of my roos in that coop (Gibbs or Elvis) are people aggressive. Elvis is the more skittish -don't want contact-non challenging roo. He's the one that was attacked. Gibbs is the let's try to mate anything, I'm the main roo in the coop. He's not human aggressive and until today I have never seen anything more than the occasional, I'm a roo, fluff up my feathers "do you want some of this" guy stuff, but I've never seen him outright attack my other roo or attempt to corner him. It was a total surprise.
Awe. Hope he feels better. That's cute.

I have no question Gibbs woud have killed Elvis if I hadn't interveined.

The "scalping" goes all the way around.

Now here's my question. Is there anything other than keeping it clean and using antibiotic ointment on it that I can do? Is there something I can or should give it for pain?  He is doing seemingly well. He doesn't act like he's on his way out.

Don't use painkiller of any kind for him... just keep it clean and watch for infection... from my understanding they don't feel pain in the same way we do, so if he's acting ok there's no need to worry on that part...

Ugh, so sorry that happened, Amy... if you can isolate the offender or have any way of penning him separately then I would do so... once he's attacked the other roo he will again... otherwise I'd rehome him as an only roo for a flock...

 

[WalnutHill]

Thank you. That's what I planned on doing. He's in the cage inside the house at the moment. I want to put up a temp little fence tomorrow so he can get out and stretch his legs for a little bit during the day. Is Blue-Kote anything that they sell at TSC or possibly a feed store? I've never heard of it.

Yes, it's in the livestock section. It is amazing stuff, tastes horrible and helps keep the others from pecking at it, plus the blue color isn't as interesting as red. It also does help the wounds heal.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/dr-naylor-blu-kote-dauber-4-oz

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Don't use painkiller of any kind for him... just keep it clean and watch for infection... from my understanding they don't feel pain in the same way we do, so if he's acting ok there's no need to worry on that part...

Ugh, so sorry that happened, Amy... if you can isolate the offender or have any way of penning him separately then I would do so... once he's attacked the other roo he will again... otherwise I'd rehome him as an only roo for a flock...

I've decided to try to find someone that might take him for breeding purposes as an only roo. He's such a beautiful bird that I hate to think of him being dinner. Right now he's still in the coop, but I plan to have him gone one way or another before Elvis is put back in the coop.

He is acting ok. It just looks so painful... My friend stopped by that I had sent a pic to and she saw him and thought it looked even worse in person. All she could say is it looks so painful. I hope it isn't though. He doesn't act like it does, but I hurt for him.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Yes, it's in the livestock section. It is amazing stuff, tastes horrible and helps keep the others from pecking at it, plus the blue color isn't as interesting as red. It also does help the wounds heal.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/dr-naylor-blu-kote-dauber-4-oz

Great thanks. I will pick some up tomorrow.

 

[FridayYet]

Just be careful of your hands, clothes, etc - that stuff stains everything!

Really hope Elvis gets better soon - chickens have amazing healing powers and I'm sure you'll take great care of him.