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[AmyLynn2374]

Just be careful of your hands, clothes, etc - that stuff stains everything!

Really hope Elvis gets better soon - chickens have amazing healing powers and I'm sure you'll take great care of him.

Thanks. I'm sure going to try.

 

[WalnutHill]

I've decided to try to find someone that might take him for breeding purposes as an only roo. He's such a beautiful bird that I hate to think of him being dinner. Right now he's still in the coop, but I plan to have him gone one way or another before Elvis is put back in the coop.

He is acting ok. It just looks so painful... My friend stopped by that I had sent a pic to and she saw him and thought it looked even worse in person. All she could say is it looks so painful. I hope it isn't though. He doesn't act like it does, but I hurt for him.

Animals most definitely feel pain every bit as much as we do, but their reaction to pain is different. They are wired for survival, not whining for sympathy, they simply accept what is and move on. I wish humans were more able to do so...

I had a Narragansett tom who got hung up in the fence, it looked like he got knocked off the roost at night. I found him in the morning, hanging upside down with his shank in the wire. His leg was shattered.

I had to nip off the bone end with wire cutters, and placed a silicone blister bandage packed with neosporin on the broken end. After a few days, the marrow receded a bit, and I removed the silicone pad and applied surgical tape, gauze, and a wad of cotton batting as a cushion. For a few days he remained silently in the crate, and I figured he was done for. But the next day he was up, eating, and began to resent the cage. So I let him out on the lawn every day after the grass dried, and the flesh grew back over the end of the bone. After it was healed, he began to walk on the stump, and I made him a leather and wood prosthetic with a rubber pad on the bottom. He got back to mating the hens, and was the father of the Narragansett tom I just sold. He is the one who was mortally wounded by the Malamute attack, and having to put him down after all he'd been through was the hardest thing I've had to do as a poultry keeper.

 

[WVduckchick]

I'm dreading the day I have to make a choice between Jack and Koriza.  Koriza is friendly to me, laid back, has a great brow and upright stature and is kinda alpha (he is the only one crowing) but Jack has better coloring, seems beefier, a little more aloof, and I've already seen him jump the Legbars a few times.  (Almost thought about putting a few of their eggs in the incubator to see how an Orloff/Legbar cross looks like  )

Of course I still have my little Wheaten Ameraucana and a little Orloff boy growing up.  

Need to seriously think about a sub-pen for the Wheaten trio.  Think the little Orloff Psycho Nugget will definitely need to go.

How many different breeds do you have??
And I have a Jack and a Psycho too! Lol

Which one? Neither of my roos in that coop (Gibbs or Elvis) are people aggressive. Elvis is the more skittish -don't want contact-non challenging roo. He's the one that was attacked. Gibbs is the let's try to mate anything, I'm the main roo in the coop. He's not human aggressive and until today I have never seen anything more than the occasional, I'm a roo, fluff up my feathers "do you want some of this" guy stuff, but I've never seen him outright attack my other roo or attempt to corner him. It was a total surprise.
Awe. Hope he feels better. That's cute.

I have no question Gibbs woud have killed Elvis if I hadn't interveined.

The "scalping" goes all the way around.

Now here's my question. Is there anything other than keeping it clean and using antibiotic ointment on it that I can do? Is there something I can or should give it for pain?  He is doing seemingly well. He doesn't act like he's on his way out.

Eek! I agree with the course of treatment lol

Wow.  Got a chance to hop on after arriving at my destination before heading out for dinner.  This thread has already been all over the place!

To top off my already long drive, I got pulled over (and ticketed).  One of those cases where I was one in a group of slightly faster cruisers, but my Charger got picked out of the lineup over a F150 Raptor, a BMW, and a Crossfire...bad luck of the draw.  Sigh.

I have to get serious and get to work but it was nice to catch up...

I have two roos that were hatched and raised together last spring tossed in with my flock of red sex links.  There are currently about 150 hens, and the Light Brahma cross roo is the dominant roo.  Last year they sparred but once they got it sorted out the Salmon Faverolle/Ameraucana roo keeps his own subset of hens and doesn't often dare to try to grab any of the other girls.  He also doesn't crow much.

I had my spare Narragansett tom in that coop all summer, that changed the dynamics.  The Light Brahma roo challenged the tom all the time, the roo is about 9 pounds and the tom about 20, that roo would fight until his face was bloody.  The tom would just grab his comb and shove his face on the floor.  Now that I sold the tom with the Narragansett hen, the roo has been getting pushy and yesterday when I grabbed a "disrupter" hen, one who runs like her tail is on fire all the time, he challenged me.  I just spread my arms and walked him backwards right out of the coop, then went on with tossing her in the feed room for one of the nice Chinese ladies who buy my culls.  He just gave me the evil eye but stepped away when I walked toward him.

There is a young roo in the other pen, an EE son of SF, who is getting serious about his crowing and the big guy now wants a piece of him.  And the young roo is challenging the turkey jakes through the fence.  Saturday he will have the opportunity to show what he's made of, once the broilers are gone I will be opening the doors and the youngsters will integrate into the turkey pen as the turkeys need the space.

I still have a small group of younger chickens that need protection and I am trying to figure out where to stick them...and one turkey in the house who is only a week old.

Charger=ticket. Duh lol
I love your insights. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge. I dont remember seeing how your hatch finished last week?

Thank you. That's what I planned on doing. He's in the cage inside the house at the moment. I want to put up a temp little fence tomorrow so he can get out and stretch his legs for a little bit during the day. Is Blue-Kote anything that they sell at TSC or possibly a feed store? I've never heard of it.

One thing to add... Dont get that blue-kote on you or let him splatter it on anything you care about. It smells (now too awful, but strong...grape-like scent, if its the same stuff I spilled!) and it stains badly!

Keep us posted on his progress please.

ETA - Friday beat me to that warning! Lol

 

[sjturner79]

I need turkey advice folks. My buddy wants us both to get 5 or so turkeys each. We are already raising meat chickens. Assuming I need to buy from a hatchery what kind should I get for eating purposes only? Will they be ready by thanksgiving anyway? I need at least a 14 pounder. Can they be around my chickens or do they potentially have a disease my chooks could get? Can I keep them in the chicken run or will that be a problem? Thanks!

Lovely pics. Turkeys will provide good immunity to to chooks for mareks disease, but chooks give turkey's susceptibility to another disease blackhead I think it was.

And just for the record: Think this: OR this: NOT this:

I have never seen the first 2 before this post, but the 3rd I see all the time

 

[WVduckchick]

Animals most definitely feel pain every bit as much as we do, but their reaction to pain is different.  They are wired for survival, not whining for sympathy, they simply accept what is and move on.  I wish humans were more able to do so...

I had a Narragansett tom who got hung up in the fence, it looked like he got knocked off the roost at night.  I found him in the morning, hanging upside down with his shank in the wire.  His leg was shattered.  

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

I had to nip off the bone end with wire cutters, and placed a silicone blister bandage packed with neosporin on the broken end.  After a few days, the marrow receded a bit, and I removed the silicone pad and applied surgical tape, gauze, and a wad of cotton batting as a cushion.  For a few days he remained silently in the crate, and I figured he was done for.  But the next day he was up, eating, and began to resent the cage.  So I let him out on the lawn every day after the grass dried, and the flesh grew back over the end of the bone.  After it was healed, he began to walk on the stump, and I made him a leather and wood prosthetic with a rubber pad on the bottom.  He got back to mating the hens, and was the father of the Narragansett tom I just sold.  He is the one who was mortally wounded by the Malamute attack, and having to put him down after all he'd been through was the hardest thing I've had to do as a poultry keeper.

There was a recent thread in the duck section here of a duck that got its leg shredded on some sharp blades of grass. Tore a huge part of skin off the top of its leg, down to the bone. Healed nicely in about 3 weeks. I need to check and see if she has actually let it back outside yet. Their healing power is something else.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Animals most definitely feel pain every bit as much as we do, but their reaction to pain is different. They are wired for survival, not whining for sympathy, they simply accept what is and move on. I wish humans were more able to do so...

I had a Narragansett tom who got hung up in the fence, it looked like he got knocked off the roost at night. I found him in the morning, hanging upside down with his shank in the wire. His leg was shattered.

I had to nip off the bone end with wire cutters, and placed a silicone blister bandage packed with neosporin on the broken end. After a few days, the marrow receded a bit, and I removed the silicone pad and applied surgical tape, gauze, and a wad of cotton batting as a cushion. For a few days he remained silently in the crate, and I figured he was done for. But the next day he was up, eating, and began to resent the cage. So I let him out on the lawn every day after the grass dried, and the flesh grew back over the end of the bone. After it was healed, he began to walk on the stump, and I made him a leather and wood prosthetic with a rubber pad on the bottom. He got back to mating the hens, and was the father of the Narragansett tom I just sold. He is the one who was mortally wounded by the Malamute attack, and having to put him down after all he'd been through was the hardest thing I've had to do as a poultry keeper.

That's sad, sorry to hear that. Wonderful what you were able to accomplish with him though.

How many different breeds do you have??
And I have a Jack and a Psycho too! Lol
Eek! I agree with the course of treatment lol
Charger=ticket. Duh lol
I love your insights. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge. I dont remember seeing how your hatch finished last week?
One thing to add... Dont get that blue-kote on you or let him splatter it on anything you care about. It smells (now too awful, but strong...grape-like scent, if its the same stuff I spilled!) and it stains badly!

Keep us posted on his progress please.

ETA - Friday beat me to that warning! Lol

LOL. I like grape smells.... I will make sure I have old clothes on and do it outside!

 

[WVduckchick]

Lovely pics. Turkeys will provide good immunity to to chooks for mareks disease, but chooks give turkey's susceptibility to another disease blackhead I think it was.
I have never seen the first 2 before this post, but the 3rd I see all the time

Since you aren't in the US, I'll explain... WV is a small US state, its where I live. Its West Virginia, and most people think we are still part of Virginia! You know what VW is, like everybody else, so that's what they think of first.

 

[WVduckchick]

That's sad, sorry to hear that. Wonderful what you were able to accomplish with him though.

LOL. I like grape smells....  I will make sure I have old clothes on and do it outside!

I like grape too, but I spilled it on the wrist of my jacket and smelled it through several washings! Its a very pungent grape smell... Like 10 cubes of Hubba Bubba at once! Lol!

 

[mixedUPturk]

Amy: please use gloves w that stuff! I was too much in a hurry, my poor Mr Jonny is almost better now. It went away after about a week... A flipn Boston Terrier did that...

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I like grape too, but I spilled it on the wrist of my jacket and smelled it through several washings! Its a very pungent grape smell... Like 10 cubes of Hubba Bubba at once! Lol!

LOL. I'll wear my coop cleaning clothes and maybe it will over power the smell of chicken crap if I spill it on me....lol