She said/He said Who's right? Who's wrong? No one!

Ok, I'm going to pretend to be old sc for a while ;)
First off, you said this is the only one not hatched out of shipped eggs? I don't know how many total you had, but only missing one in a shipped batch is incredible. You're doing something right :thumbsup
Going with how this thread started, don't blame yourself if it doesn't make it. I would have given up on it yesterday. It's been pipped in the shell for a long time, and the pics make it look under developed. I'm not saying it won't hatch and thrive, but it looks like you have done everything you possibly could to give it a chance. Some just aren't meant to hatch


Thank you. There were 12 originally but only 9 made it to lockdown. I credit the shipper, a friend from a few states over. They did a great job packing them.
 
A parade? Lol

Well, I helped it. The veins all seemed drawn in and we r going on three days so I figured I better try. It seems okay, but at the bottom, which was the last bit I removed, it has this thing hanging out of its belly button. Should I clip it and free it? It seems to want free badly lol.
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Eta: I have been holding it tightly and researching for thirty minutes or so BC I am scared it will pull it out. I have a towel in warm, sterile water, cooling down to wrap it up in if that would be better.
 
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A parade? Lol

Well, I helped it. The veins all seemed drawn in and we r going on three days so I figured I better try. It seems okay, but at the bottom, which was the last bit I removed, it has this thing hanging out of its belly button. Should I clip it and free it? It seems to want free badly lol.


Eta: I have been holding it tightly and researching for thirty minutes or so BC I am scared it will pull it out. I have a towel in warm, sterile water, cooling down to wrap it up in if that would be better.
That sounds like the umbilical cord, which should dry up & fall off of its own accord in a few days.
 
Ok, got it! I think my grandmother has one...I'll rumage her cabinets next time I'm there, oh next week actually for turkey dinner!
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Yup, you're right on!
How's that baby?
X2. I only have 2 laying hens right now. One lays longer, pointier eggs and one lays small round ones. So I would pick the latter, right?
Yes, we have gargoyle geckos and depending on a difference of incubating +\- 5 degrees, you can aim for males or females. I said to the kids that I wish that was true for my chicken eggs!!
No. If you have 2 laying hens, and can tell the difference between their eggs, this is what I'd do: I'd save their eggs for a week. Then I'd separate the eggs into Hen A and Hen B piles. Then, I'd look carefully at A pile and see if there were any subtle differences, choosing the ones that were most round. (closest ratio between length and width, not as pointy on the small end) Do the same for group B. Then, you can also mark the eggs you set with A or B. It would be interesting to note if your torpedo layer produces more cockrels, and your baseball layer produces more pullets. IMO, these smaller flocks, where each bird's eggs can be ID'd are perfect for this experiment, more so than doing a selection based solely on shape. In theory, a hen will release male ovum one day and female the following day.

A parade? Lol

Well, I helped it. The veins all seemed drawn in and we r going on three days so I figured I better try. It seems okay, but at the bottom, which was the last bit I removed, it has this thing hanging out of its belly button. Should I clip it and free it? It seems to want free badly lol.


Eta: I have been holding it tightly and researching for thirty minutes or so BC I am scared it will pull it out. I have a towel in warm, sterile water, cooling down to wrap it up in if that would be better.
I honestly don't know what that tissue is at the bottom. But, it is securely connected with some strong tissue and some active vasculature. I think this chick is destined to be a cull, but it shows strong will to live and is a fighter. Your call whether you cull now, or give it a while longer. No matter the outcome, don't kick yourself. What I'd do is place it in a cup, and put it back in the bator and see what it looks like in the morning. Either that pouch is incidental material, and that vascular system will dry up (in which case the chick may be ok) Or that pouch is vital material that should have been enclosed in the abdomen, In which case the chick has no chance of living.
 
Ok, got it! I think my grandmother has one...I'll rumage her cabinets next time I'm there, oh next week actually for turkey dinner!
smile.png

Yup, you're right on!
How's that baby?
X2. I only have 2 laying hens right now. One lays longer, pointier eggs and one lays small round ones. So I would pick the latter, right?
Yes, we have gargoyle geckos and depending on a difference of incubating +\- 5 degrees, you can aim for males or females. I said to the kids that I wish that was true for my chicken eggs!!
This spring you can send me 80% round and 20 pointed...lol After all I am going to need a roo too!!

Thanks for asking y'all The baby still hasn't changed much. The membrane was getting tough and leathery so little by little(mmxmm) I peeled off she'll and outer membrane just to see and ran into a spot where I could see a vein so I threw another wet sponge in and set it back on the warm, wet rag and am waiting more. It is struggling and cheeping. Seems to be stuck BC of the position it's in.
I'm surprised it has lasted this long.

A parade? Lol

Well, I helped it. The veins all seemed drawn in and we r going on three days so I figured I better try. It seems okay, but at the bottom, which was the last bit I removed, it has this thing hanging out of its belly button. Should I clip it and free it? It seems to want free badly lol.


Eta: I have been holding it tightly and researching for thirty minutes or so BC I am scared it will pull it out. I have a towel in warm, sterile water, cooling down to wrap it up in if that would be better.
You can leave him in the bator and see if it pulls away itself or you can CUT it off toward the navel, but don't ever pull a "cord" away from a chick that is soundly connected. I personally would put him back in the bator and give it some time and see if it comes off naturally.
 
Please help! I came home to another ducking this afternoon. This one isn't drying like the others :/ almost like it was dipped in glue. And its not able to close its eyes. Is there a soap I can use or just keep wetting it with water?
 
No. If you have 2 laying hens, and can tell the difference between their eggs, this is what I'd do: I'd save their eggs for a week. Then I'd separate the eggs into Hen A and Hen B piles. Then, I'd look carefully at A pile and see if there were any subtle differences, choosing the ones that were most round. (closest ratio between length and width, not as pointy on the small end) Do the same for group B. Then, you can also mark the eggs you set with A or B. It would be interesting to note if your torpedo layer produces more cockrels, and your baseball layer produces more pullets. IMO, these smaller flocks, where each bird's eggs can be ID'd are perfect for this experiment, more so than doing a selection based solely on shape. In theory, a hen will release male ovum one day and female the following day.

I honestly don't know what that tissue is at the bottom. But, it is securely connected with some strong tissue and some active vasculature. I think this chick is destined to be a cull, but it shows strong will to live and is a fighter. Your call whether you cull now, or give it a while longer. No matter the outcome, don't kick yourself. What I'd do is place it in a cup, and put it back in the bator and see what it looks like in the morning. Either that pouch is incidental material, and that vascular system will dry up (in which case the chick may be ok) Or that pouch is vital material that should have been enclosed in the abdomen, In which case the chick has no chance of living.
At some point if I can figure out who's laying what, I'd like to hatch out all chicks from one hen that lays more round eggs and one hen that lays more pointed eggs and see if either hens are more apt to lay either males or females. Of course to get a decent idea I would have to repeate the test a few times to see if the results come close to the same. But you do what you have to do in the name of "science"...lol
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Please help! I came home to another ducking this afternoon. This one isn't drying like the others
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almost like it was dipped in glue. And its not able to close its eyes. Is there a soap I can use or just keep wetting it with water?
If you have dawn blue dish detergent a small amount of that can be used safely, or just some warm water. Just make sure it doesn't get chilled.
 

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