Shell-less egg within egg, within egg, within egg.....etc (ugly pics)

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by cambriagardener, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. cambriagardener

    cambriagardener Chillin' With My Peeps

    My three-year-old EE layed this 1/2 pound mass of shell-less eggs. Turned out there were five shell-less eggs within each other. I posted these pictures on the egg-laying behavior topic but no one knows exactly what it is and what I can do about it. Is there something I can do? What about antibiotics? Is she an "internal layer" and does this ever correct itself?

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  2. mammat

    mammat Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I dont know what to say but wow that is bizarre? My EE just started laying soft shell eggs 3 days ago. She lays them on the poop board but then sits in the nest box all day trying to lay more! In looking for answers I have discovered ALOT of posts about EE laying soft weird eggs. I wonder if it is a breed issue>
     
  3. JustDawn

    JustDawn Chillin' With My Peeps

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    WOW!

    I went for a search and this is what I found:

    Egg within an egg:
    "An egg within an egg, or a double shelled egg appears when an egg that is nearly ready to be laid reverses direction and gets a new layer of albumen covered by a second shell. Sometimes the reversed egg joins up with the next egg and the two are encased together within a new shell. Double shelled eggs are so rare that no one knows exactly why or how they happen."
    Shell-less egg
    Every once in a while we get an egg with a membrane, but without a shell. It feels like a water balloon. This is another accident of the hen's reproductive system and is not necessarily an indication of any problem. The membrane was placed on the yolk and white, but it somehow slipped past the "shell mechanism" and the shell wasn't deposited.

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    Q: Why did my chicken lay a shell-less egg?

    A: Chickens need a lot of calcium to create good, hard shells, so most incidences of shell-less eggs in an adult hens are related to not having enough calcium in the diet. Young hens may lay a shell-less egg or two right as they begin to lay eggs for the first time, before their systems have "gotten into the groove" of laying. If your girls are on a proper diet of lay ration and have oyster shell free choice, they should have all the calcium they need. They also need Vitamin D and a proper balance of other vitamins so they can process the calcium. Lots of snacks or scraps can throw off the nutrient balance of their diets or give them too much salt.

    Disturbances at night while they are sleeping--a predator prowling around, or a big storm, for example-- can also sometimes upset their system and cause shell-less eggs. If that is what's happening, some of the other girls' eggs may have bands or "checks" on them, as the laying process was disturbed briefly before resuming its normal course. If disturbances are the problem, when they cease, the shell problems should cease, too.

    Another possibility has to do with the salt in their diet. Too much salinity can cause shell-less or thin-shelled eggs. So, sometimes if they are drinking water that is highly softened, it can contain a problem amount of salts for them.

    It could also simply be a defective shell gland; it that is the case there is nothing to be done about it.

    Lastly, infectious bronchitis can also cause thin shelled eggs, or eggs with no shells. Chances are good you would have noticed respiratory symptoms. If you suspect your chicken has a case of IB, you should get her to a vet for a diagnosis immediately. There are some other illnesses, such as egg drop syndrome, that could cause the same thing. If you have eliminated everything else, your vet may be able to help you.


    I found these on a different website and I wasn't sure if I could post the other website. Please let me know and I will add the link.
     
  4. cambriagardener

    cambriagardener Chillin' With My Peeps

    Thanks for your research. I did my own but you came up with some things I hadn't found. I'm going to cut back on kitchen scraps. Perhaps I'm throwing off their dietary balance. Thanks, folks, for responding. I'll keep looking for more information. Let me know if you find anything new on this subject.
     
  5. iluvsedward

    iluvsedward Overrun With Chickens

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    WOW! thats very interesting!
     
  6. margiedawn

    margiedawn Out Of The Brooder

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    Yes its good information. I think I found a rubber egg today. It was step on so you could not tell, but the egg white part was really thick looking. My chicken are still really new at laying so it could be a age thing, but I do give them a lot to table scape so. I going to cut back on that. [​IMG]
     

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